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Benz Oct Sales CLS, M, SLK are doing all the work. R-Class sold 930 units in its first full month. M |
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So, Merc. Nice place you've got here. Please answer some ?? for us non-Benzophiles: What's up with the 2.5L, 200HP C230? Why isn't it the C250? Are they trying to be like Lexus with a 2.5? What, WHAT is up with the C230 $5 increase!!  What....now....next year, the price will go up another $5? Then another $5? Quite a gap between the C350 and E-350, no? $12k is quite a chasm in the heart of the market, no? Also considering the fact that the E-Class is similar in size to many cars in the $30-40k class. With all the new car introductions recently and impending, should sales be higher, or are the proliferation of new models just feeding off other family members? Isn't the S350 very new? Like less than a year old? With just 7 less HP than a S430, why the large disparity in price ($12k)? What is it with Benz and $12k price gaps? If the new S comes in the Spring, why bring in this bottom-feeder model so late in life?  Do YOU like the idea of a 227HP SLK? I think a six and and eight should cover it, and further dumbing-down hurts it's cache, but you are the expert here. Thank you in advance for any moments of clarity in the seemingly merky world that is Mercedes-Benz. Toodles!  DrFill
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Replying to: callmedrfill (Nov 02, 2005 6:43 am) What's up with the 2.5L, 200HP C230? Why isn't it the C250? Are they trying to be like Lexus with a 2.5? Nothing to do with Lexus. The 2.5L V6 has been out in Europe since spring long before the IS250. I'm glad they didn't call it a "250" at this point to avoid confusion. I suspect that when the next C comes along it will be called the "C250" with a hp increase via direct injection. Quite a gap between the C350 and E-350, no? $12k is quite a chasm in the heart of the market, no? Also considering the fact that the E-Class is similar in size to many cars in the $30-40k class. True, which is why I've said all along Mercedes needs to answer the BMW 525i with an E280 model, but MBUSA isn't interested. Size alone doesn't dictate class. With all the new car introductions recently and impending, should sales be higher, or are the proliferation of new models just feeding off other family members? Yeah they should be higher, but the problem is that MB's lineup is being shored up by specialty models like the SLK and CLS and SUV/Wagons like the M and R-Classes, these models alone aren't enough to make sales jump dramatically when the bread and butter models like the C, E and S are all down from a year ago. Especially since SUV type vehicles are seemingly losing favor at every brand now because of high gas prices. The S being new and the E pending a facelift will do much better in CY 2006, but the C has a long road ahead of it until summer 2007 when the 2008 C is expected to arrive here. My own theory behind them bringing over the S350 was to see if there was still a market for it, thus deciding on whether or not to bring over the next generation S350. The Benz faithful are in the dark on that one. It seems to be selling, but there is no talk of a W221 S350 model being sold here next year. Do YOU like the idea of a 227HP SLK? I think a six and and eight should cover it, and further dumbing-down hurts it's cache, but you are the expert here. Yes, because the SLK280 is no slouch and it certainly isn't a "cheap" car by any means. Have you checked the new SLK out? SLK sales are as high as they've ever been. Now a 4-cylinder SLK would cheapen the brand imo, but there are no more 4-pot Benz coming to the U.S. anymore. M |
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Replying to: merc1 (Oct 31, 2005 6:34 am) If a car is ordered now for delivery sometime in the new year, will it have the new engine? |
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Replying to: mssurrey (Nov 22, 2005 10:46 pm) Since the S is the first to have this new engine I would exepect than any CLS models ordered past Feb-March 2006 will be the a 2007 model, just a guess. M |
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Replying to: merc1 (Nov 23, 2005 1:52 pm)
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Replying to: mssurrey (Nov 23, 2005 6:22 pm) Yep. All the "500" cars will become "550" cars for 2007. CLK, SL, CL, S, E, CLS, ML, R and the new "GL" will all get the new V8. There might be a "450" version of some of these running the smaller 4.6L V8 from the upcoming S450 (335hp), but that isn't clear. M |
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Replying to: merc1 (Nov 23, 2005 1:52 pm)
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Replying to: anthonyp (Nov 26, 2005 2:04 pm) M |
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Replying to: merc1 (Oct 31, 2005 6:34 am)
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