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#211 of 441 S vs. 7 by scott1256 Jun 21, 2005 (7:19 am)
Replying to: ikramerica (Jun 20, 2005 11:29 pm) I see hardly any resemblance between the exteriors of these two cars. The interior is similar but I like the way Mercedes has applied their wood trim.   What bugs me is that the side view of the S shares many cues (particularly the fender flares) with the Ford Focus 4 door sedan.
#212 of 441 New Mercedes series selling by scott1256 Jul 01, 2005 (11:40 am)
like hotcakes!   The new SLK and M are carrying the torch for the whole line. Hope the new S will do likewise.   http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/07/01/136380.html Replies to this message: merc1 (Jul 02, 2005 9:23 am)
#213 of 441 Re: New Mercedes series selling [scott1256] by merc1 Jul 02, 2005 (9:23 am)
Replying to: scott1256 (Jul 01, 2005 11:40 am) Thats amazing, the best June on record and every Mercedes except the SLK and M-Class are down compared to last year. Don't forget the CLS too, it did a lot to keep MB ahead of June 2004.   I predict the new S will be the best selling S of all time for several reasons, its different and looks to finally be of the type of quality an S-Class priced vehicle should be.   This year though the facelifted CLK, new R-Class and re-engined C-Class should all really turn things up in July, August and Sept as all three are introduced.   I'm glad to see the E-Class pulling close to its month by month percentages of last year. I think it may be able to rally late in the year and re-claim its best seller in class spot from the 5-Series.   M
#214 of 441 Don't forget SLK280 by ikramerica Jul 02, 2005 (7:53 pm)
While the new engined Cs will help some against the initial firepower of the new 3 series, and the CLK will hold steady with it's changes (rather than continuing to decline),   It's the R-Class, the CLS, the M, and the new SLK280 added to the SLK line that will continue to boost sales.   S class will decline until the new model, CL is in the toilet, E class is just going to hum along until a face-lift and new V8.   You also may see a surge in G class sales toward the end as some people will see it as their "last chance" to get one.
#215 of 441 I had missed the CLS..... by scott1256 Jul 07, 2005 (7:07 am)
and it is doing very well. too.   Merc1, you mention BMW......their sales are down for the first half of the year. They improved performance of the latest editions of the 3, 5 and 7 series but the looks are weird. The new C class may give the 3 series a real challenge!   Ikramerica, you made me smile..........the 'last edition' of most things does usually give sales a boost......may happen with the G class also.
#216 of 441 New Mercedes V8 by merc1 Jul 12, 2005 (11:24 pm)
See Here   The new AMG 6.3L V8 is naturally aspirated and makes 510hp/464lb-ft torque. It isn't clear which models will get this new V8 in this particular state of tune, other than the R and M-Classes.   I don't see how performance will improve over the current supercharged 5.5L V8 in the "55" car with this new engine because it has to rev much higher only to make a few more hp and it makes a lot less torque.   In reading the specs it seems this V8 is similar to BMW's new V10 in the way it adopts a lot of racing tech for production. According to the article this V8 doesn't share anything with other MB V8s, a first for AMG since they've always taken a stock MB V8 and tweaked it until now.   Now the specs on the S-Class' new 5.5L V8 would be nice....   M
#217 of 441 SL Facelift by merc1 Jul 13, 2005 (9:32 pm)
Well since the C-Class and CLK have gotten their mid-life facelifts, its the E and SL's turn. These are the latest spy pics of the facelifted SL. I'm guessing it will turn up for 2007 with a similarly facelifted E-Class. Both "500" models will no doubt get the new 5.5L 382hp V8. Then of course the "55" models will become "63" models with the new AMG V8 in the post above.   Pics:           All I see here is new 3-slat grille like the 2006 CLK, new front bumper assembly and a slightly different taillight design. Thank gawd the rumors about a SLR style nose don't appear to be true. I guess there really wasn't much else to do with the SL, hard to improve on such a perfect shape to begin with.   M Replies to this message: cannga (Sep 04, 2005 4:23 pm) merc1 (Sep 14, 2005 4:13 am)
#218 of 441 CLS ML500 Update by clsclass Jul 18, 2005 (8:42 am)
I'm Just getting ready to turn over 3000 miles in this car and thought I'd give a quick update. If you remember, I bought the Launch edition of the CLS and the new ML500 at the same time, and both were my first MB vehicles. First the CLS. This car just continues to grow on me every day. It's ride is very controlled and tight..better the the E500. I leave the Airmatic in auto and it seems to always find the best compromise. No problems to report at all. The seven speed transmission may be as good as I've had in a car of any type. Don't much care for the brakes...very hard to modulate and smooth stops still elude me. Also, I probably wouldn't order the ventilated seats in another car. They really seem to make little difference. And of course the car still gets looks. I find people stopping as they pass it in parking lots. The ML500 is also a very nice vehicle. It seems almost as quick as the CLS which is surprising given its weight. Same wonderful transmission and airmatic suspension. This car also just got to 3000 miles, but there have been a few glitches. Of course there was the recall that's been discussed on the other message boards. But the ML is also back at the dealers today..the engine has cut-out twice...once while entering the ramp to a parking garage. It also seems to occasionally idle rough at stop lights. Hope this is just some sort of adjustment. It was very disconcerting to have the car shut off while in motion. Otherwise, we really like the vehicle. The new design is great, particularly the interior ergonomics. I especially like the change to the stalk-type gear shift. Results in a very useable console. Surprisingly, the brakes in the ML are much easier to manage than the CLS...really "natural" pedal feel under all conditions. And although the power assist on the tailgate was not an option I would have ordered, it has really enhanced the utility of this vehicle for me. All-in-all, still very pleased with both cars, although I'm crossing my fingers on the ML stalling issue. Happy motoring. Replies to this message: merc1 (Jul 18, 2005 9:19 pm)
#219 of 441 Re: CLS ML500 Update [clsclass] by merc1 Jul 18, 2005 (9:19 pm)
Replying to: clsclass (Jul 18, 2005 8:42 am) Thanks for the update. I hope that is the last problem you have with the ML.   M
#220 of 441 MB July Sales by merc1 Aug 03, 2005 (11:18 pm)
See Here   Up almost 10 percent compared to July 2004. The CL showed the sharpest decline vs last year, its time has passed I guess. A shame really because this model never got its props imo, being such a stunning design. I suspect the Bentley Continental GT has been the biggest problem for the CL because the GT doesn't cost much more than a CL600/55/65. The E, SLK, M and CLS all continue to post gains, with the E being somewhat of a surprise considering all the new competition in that segment. I guess the initial sales loss because of the CLS has passed?   The newly V6 engined C-Class models are just arriving at dealers as is the facelifted CLK so August will be interesting to see if buyers notice the changes to these two model lines. Can't wait to see what the R-Class will do in Oct.   M

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