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#187 of 441 Re: Merc1 - thanks for the summary. [merc1] by sgtmjr May 23, 2005 (1:43 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (May 20, 2005 10:41 pm) Thanks again merc1. You are apparently quite the AMG guru. The S550 you mention by the way would seem to have considerable appeal given the likely $$ delta for the AMG variant. Replies to this message: merc1 (May 24, 2005 1:27 am)
#188 of 441 Re: Merc1 - thanks for the summary. [sgtmjr] by merc1 May 24, 2005 (1:27 am)
Replying to: sgtmjr (May 23, 2005 1:43 pm) Thanks, but I'm no AMG Guru. Its just that the info about the new V8s and the new S-Class are talked about so much on other sites to the point of it being all but confirmed at this point. Mercedes will have a lot to display at the Frankfurt autoshow this year it seems.   M
#189 of 441 More Mercedes News by merc1 May 24, 2005 (1:32 am)
There are lot of upcoming variations of the CLK, C and E-Class coming in a few months. Not all of this translates to U.S. market cars, but the most intersting E-Class variant is the new E320 CDI with the new V6. For the first time Mercedes will be able to offer a 4Matic diesel...the E320 CDI 4Matic. This model will definitely make it to the U.S. There is also a new 314hp 4.0L V8 diesel too in the E420 CDI. I look for the new V6 to wind up in the U.S. under the hoods of the new M-Class, R-Class, and of course the E-Class (replacing the current I6). This new diesel V8 I can see in the R-Class, S-Class and whatever replaces the G-Class. By the time the 2008 model year rolls around and a new C-Class is upon us I can see C320 CDI also since there is one in Europe now.   Lots of info about the facelifted CLK, C-Class engines, and new diesels Here.   At the IAA this year in Frankfurt it is also rumored that Mercedes will show a lightweight version of the SL. Think about a SL55 AMG that is about 500-1000lbs lighter. Remember this is car that can get to 60 mph in 4.5 seconds in its current (very heavy) guise. Of course the new S-Class will make its debut. There might even be an updated E-Class there too.   M
#190 of 441 SL = "sport light" by ikramerica May 25, 2005 (9:18 pm)
so it's about time brought the "light" back, huh?   even the "sport light compact" SLK is a bit heavier than it might be. Replies to this message: merc1 (May 25, 2005 9:47 pm)
#191 of 441 SL = "sport light" by merc1 May 25, 2005 (9:47 pm)
Replying to: ikramerica (May 25, 2005 9:18 pm) Good point. Don't you just love the logic behind SL, SLK, SLR, CL and CLK?   SL = Sport Light SLK = Sport Light Short CLK = Coupe Light Short CL = Coupe Light SLR = Sport Light Racing   M
#192 of 441 is it compact or short? by ikramerica May 26, 2005 (8:39 am)
both K words, but I always thought it was compact.   BTW - What did the S in the original "S" class stand for. i know what the E and the L and the D meant, but not the S.
#193 of 441 CL - just a name by ikramerica May 26, 2005 (8:41 am)
Also, don't think CL means anything, since it came around after the naming change, and there is no way that car is "light." Old big coupe didn't have an L in it, nor did the E class coupe for that matter. Just like the ML doesn't mean anything, I would imagine.
#194 of 441 ikramerica by merc1 May 26, 2005 (8:22 pm)
I think S always stood for "Super" Like in the old SSK models. It stood for Super Sport. Actually none of these cars are "light" so CL is just as relevant as CLK to me. I'm betting ML means something light, but not sure what. Light for a "truck" that is. What did E stand for? Executive? C stood for "Compact" right?   M
#195 of 441 MB Advertising by merc1 May 26, 2005 (8:51 pm)
For the first time in years I'm seeing advertising for a single E-Class model as opposed to just commercials about the "E-Class" in general. They're really pushing the E350. The E-Class is such a gorgeous car.   M
#196 of 441 What E means... by ikramerica May 27, 2005 (12:30 am)
It means Einspritzen (excuse my german spelling). Translation? Fuel injected. The E arrived with the fuel injection techology in the late sixties, IIRC. Before that, sedan models were just 190, or 190D for deisel. Big cars were just called S models, like the 1960 220S.   S means a lot of things. S for Sport, S for Super. There must be a meaning for the large cars though.   T stands for station wagon, a designation that is now gone (300TD, 300TE)   And L did mean light in the sports cars. (licht?) The original 300SL was absolutely light.   But in the SE sedans, it was for the long wheelbase (not sure the german for that, lang?).   The naming problems came with the compact 190 class, since the engines started getting larger and the public got confused by overlapping and such. They called the middle range the E class, when it was really just the middle sized sedan (how can the 300TD wagon be an E class?) So MB moved the letters to the front, kept the E for E class, S for large sedan, and used C for compact (not K), which screwed up all the coupes, which might explain the L in CL. Then the short coupe had to be CLK. Then the C-Coupe got confusing, since the CLK was already the small coupe, and the C stood for C-Class, not Coupe.   Oh well, back to FUTURE models.

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