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Replying to: stroudman (May 10, 2005 12:13 pm) I am following this thread as I am interested in the new R class Grand Sport Tourer. Your wood trim comment caught my attention. I got thrown off the RX400h thread for making disparaging remarks about the lack of off-road ability with the Lexus sport ute. One of the things that got to me is making out like aluminum trim is better than wood trim. Am I missing something? Anyway I am enjoying your dialog on the difference between cars. I am into handling more than doodads that are offered on many Asian cars. Too bad they can't handle or stop as fast as they can make them accelerate. I bought a 2005 Passat TDI until the R class with diesel hits our shores. It is a very nice car, though a bit smaller than my Suburban. |
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Says who? I have never read any objective report that says ALL mercedes models have equal reliability problems. For Forbes to make such a grand statement is typical of the press today. They don't do research, they don't check facts, they write what they 'hear' or parrot what they 'read' and state it as fact without attribution or evidence. more and more journalists are being thrown off of newspapers for this laziness. but car reviews still suffer from it. whether it is fabricating stoplight anecdotes, slamming a cars ergonomics because they are too stupid to read a manual once in their lives, or repeating what they hear around the watercooler as fact, it is all symptomatic of journalistic laziness. I wrote a nasty letter to Edmunds inside line about the same thing. In every, and I mean, every, article recently about a new mercedes model, one that hasn't even been released and has no history of problems, the bottom line is always "this one will likely be a lemon" or something like that. It's is total parroting bias that serves little purpose. As i stated before and will repeat, MB cars get the same high customer satisfaction scores of other top models on Edmunds, and often higher, despite the low regard the editors have for MB. So who is right, the reviewer who drives the car for a day, laments you can't get a manual transmission, and then reads consumer reports, or the owner who has the car for years and loves it? If the cars like the C-Class were really lemons, how would they get 9.5 scores (compared to lower for the 3-series, A4 and X-type)? These averages include people who post about bad experiences, so it's not hype. So I guess if MB doesn't get 10s across the board, they are failures?
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Replying to: ikramerica (May 14, 2005 3:09 pm) I vote for the consumer that gives his opinion after owning the car, over Edmund's, CR or JD Powers. I also get a lot of flack about Passat TDI being unreliable. Yet if you follow the threads there is much more praise than unhappy owners. I have gotten to where I don't trust magazine writers at all. Most of the articles are just re-writes of other articles or worse the written statement given by Toyota, Lexus or Honda. |
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Replying to: ikramerica (May 14, 2005 3:09 pm) I think Mercedes gets slammed harder because they were the leader in the luxury car market so long and some people in the back of their minds like to see a great name fall from time to time. M |
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In reading some other sites tonight there is a lot of talk about whats upcoming in the Benz lineup, here is what we know and the latest rumors by model year: 2006: CLK facelift new CLK350, C-Class new 2.5L, 3.0L, and 3.5L V6 engines, R-Class, M-Class, SLK280. S350 added to the S-Class lineup in the U.S. More standard equipment on all S-Class models for the final run of the S-Class. 2007: New S-Class, new CL, E-Class facelift, SL-Class facelift, all three with new V8 engines. New G-Class, though there is some question as to whether or not this new large SUV will be called a "G". Some MB sites are saying it will be called the MLX or GLX. New V8s thoughout the entire MB range. New 6.3L V8 from AMG in various states of tune based on application. (should be the biggest year in the near future) 2008: New C-Class. New CLK. New small SUV below the M-Class. Several names are being thrown around: MLX, MLK, GLK, X-Class etc. All we know is that it is coming. Finally there is talk of another CLS style vehicle between the next C-Class and the E-Class, the CLE. M |
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I appreciate the concise overview of the next 3 model years for Mercedes. With 5-6 'future Mercedes' topics now open, often about single models, it can be hard to keep track. Would it be better if all 'future vehicle' Mercedes topics were consolidated in this one thread?
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Replying to: scott1256 (May 16, 2005 1:53 pm) We should be talking about specific, announced future models in the model-specific discussions. This one exists more for speculation, and for talking about models that are likely to be updated. If you want to keep track of all of them, subscribe to them and check your message center. Some members are only interested in 1 or 2 upcoming models, and wouldn't want to dig through this discussion for information on the one they're interested in. |
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Replying to: scott1256 (May 16, 2005 1:53 pm) No problem. Its always fun to try and look into the future. Mercedes' way of doing things though are pretty much predictable imo. Mercedes usually sticks to a clear pattern of introducing a new model. This new S-Class will be shown in Sept and will land here in the March-April timeframe, 7 years to the month when the current model went on sale here. M
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J.D. Power released the 2005 rankings today and Mercedes is back in the top 5. I am doubly pleased as 2 of my favorite marques are tied for 5th place: Cadillac and Mercedes. "As in last year's survey, General Motors Corp. (GM) had two of its brands -- Buick and Cadillac -- in the top five. Buick was No. 4 with 101 problems per 100 vehicles, followed by Cadillac in fifth place, tied with DaimlerChrysler AG's ( DCX) Mercedes-Benz." Top five brands in order: Lexus, Jaguar, BMW, Buick and Cadillac/Mercedes tied for 5th. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,156948,00.html Let's hope Mercedes keeps the good quality rolling along.
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Replying to: scott1256 (May 18, 2005 12:06 pm) Still though some improvement is better than none I guess. Hopefully there will be a corresponding improvement in the long term stats also. Thing is we have to wait until 2008 to truly find out how good the 2005 models are. Then again maybe not, CR does a one year survey. It will be out next April for the 2005 models. M |
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