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Replying to: stroudman (Apr 22, 2005 11:09 am) M
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Replying to: merc1 (Apr 26, 2005 9:02 pm)
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Replying to: stroudman (Apr 28, 2005 1:15 pm) Yep, that was the first thing I noticed a few months ago when the S350 all of a sudden appeared on MBUSA.com. I guess a 268hp V6 is too close to the 275hp V8 of the S430. More importantly we'll get the new S350 with the new V6 it seems otherwise I don't see why they'd bother giving us an S350 so late in the current S-Class' model run. M |
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The Wall St Journal reports today that Mercedes lost $1.23 billion in the first quarter. In my opinion you understand what Mercedes stands for and what its cars should be. Current Daimler management seems to be adrift in this regard. My favorite German and American car marques (Mercedes and GM) have lost over $2 billion between them in the last quarter - hard to believe.
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Replying to: scott1256 (Apr 29, 2005 11:23 am) Well I've done my part. I've written letters and even talked with Maybach and Mercedes reps at various autoshows (mainly Detroit where I really did have an important ear for a few minutes), but its up to them now. They seem to at the very least know that they have a problem. I've read the statement about earnings and 1 Billion (gulp!) of that was for Smart, which I say they should dump, but they aren't. So that mean Mercedes lost a mere 200 Million! Right. At the prices they charge they should make more money than just about anyone else, at least in the luxury car business. The demons have come back to haunt them and they've got to spend big time for at least all of 2005 and the first half of 2006 to get things under control. I think as new model roll out they'll make a profit this year, but it will be a small one thats for sure. They're spending millions and millions to make cars already on the road "right" as Cordes said, an admirable, but costly thing to do. Look for 2006 to be a much better year, but forget about 2005 because I don't think you've heard the worse yet. Now GM, imo is much worse shape because they have a lot of new models and they simply aren't selling up to expectations. Unlike Mercedes, GM has a design problem. From engines to styling they seem to be behind the curve and just plain lacking even on their brand new models. I personally think GM is just too big to properly fund all of their divisions with the quality of cars each one needs. M |
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I think you are right about the new introductions boosting sales. There are some very promising products in the very near future. One negative - Smart is a dead weight now. I think huge losses will get the attention of Mercedes manangement in a way customer complaints never did. It is human nature to be complacent until crunch time. As to GM - GM has a structural cost disadvantage of $2,500-3,000 per vehicle that won't go away until union contracts are reopened. Eventually management will have to face this unwelcome truth and be tough. Oh well - one can't be a fan without some losing seasons. Right now 2 of my 3 teams are down.
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Replying to: scott1256 (May 02, 2005 6:05 am) What is the third team? M |
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What is the deal with the E55 Wagon? I'd read that it will be available for special order staring this Spring. True? M |
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why not just ask a dealer? it is spring already...
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