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Got first quote and financing terms from dealer by ttothes
Mar 23, 2005 (6:06 am)
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Hello!
 
I'm currently negotiating the purchase or lease of the following X3 and would really appreciate any one reviewing the numbers and offering any advice:
 
3.0i
Jet-black
Premium Package
Satellite Radio Prep
Automatic Transmission
Window Tint (done locally)
 
MSRP ($38,870) with tint ($180) has been quoted at $39,050; dealer will discount $1,700 to get to $37,350 w/out TTL.
 
The purchase APR I've been quoted is 3.9% all the way out to 60 months if desired.
 
The two leasing options are as follows:
 
1) 36mo lease
- 12k/yr
- $842 minimum down = $580mo.
- 61% Residual for buy out option of $23,710
- Money Factor .00155
 
2) 36mo Owner Choice (Balloon)
- 12k/yr
- $0 Out of Pocket = $588mo
- Same residual.
- 4.5% Interest
 
Do you think I should push for more off the sales price? And do these terms all seem reasonable and/or would you have a preference?
 
THANKS!!!!
#628 of 1544
Buying: Purchase X3 3.0 w/Auto by vbak
Mar 23, 2005 (6:28 am)
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Buying: Price for X3 3.0 w/Premium and Cold Wthr Pkg by vbak
Mar 23, 2005 (7:19 am)
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Hello all,
 
Any ideas on the right purchase price in the Pittsburgh, PA area for a X3 3.0.
I am looking to buy a Metallic Black X3 3.0 w/Premium and Cold Weather Pkg in addition to some minor extras like servo steering, park distance control. I have been browsing the various websites (edmunds, kbb, carsdirect) and the thread and seems like people are trying to pay ~1500 over invoice.
Given the invoice price of ~$37.5, I am assuming ~$39k would be an ok deal. Is getting this car at invoice not feasible? I thought the invoice price already has some builtin markup for the dealer. Also, do these dealers throw in loaner cars when you take the car in for service?
 
I am posting the "public" prices I have researched below. Any thoughts on which number I should be striving for would be great.
 
Thanks
 
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CarsDirect Invoice: $37,592 Sale Price: $39,342
Edmunds Invoice: $37,530 TMV: $39,721
KBB: Invoice: $37,510 BlueBook: $38,993
#630 of 1544
Re: Got first quote and financing terms from dealer [ttothes] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 23, 2005 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: ttothes (Mar 23, 2005 6:06 am)

1) No comment on the owner's choice, as I don't follow those..
 
2) The lease is not a good deal.. and, unless your taxes are extremely high, they are really laying some extras into the price that aren't accounted for, plus marking up all of the fees and money factor..
 
3) Assuming all of the fees and money factors at their maximum, I could only come up with a payment of $498/mo + tax.. Unless there is something else I'm not aware of, the tax would have to be $82/mo to get to your payment..
 
This is how your lease deal should look:
 
$38,870 MSRP (tint is not residualized)
$37,350 selling price
$37,975 CAP cost (selling price + $625 acq.fee)
36mo/36K lease
61% Residual
.0010 money factor (base rate)
Payment: $458/mo + tax
Due at signing: 1st pymt, security deposit, title/license (about $260?) total approx. $1200-$1300.
 
If you can't get that lease deal, I'd be more inclined to just purchase the car at 3.9% for 60 months, rather than pay $580/mo for a lease.. Payments on your purchase price would be $686/mo.+ tax..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Buying: Price for X3 3.0 w/Premium and Cold Wthr Pkg [vbak] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 23, 2005 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: vbak (Mar 23, 2005 7:19 am)

I think a good price to shoot for is $800-$1200 over invoice.. Anything more than $1500 over invoice seems to be a little much..
 
Good lease deals, if you can get the dealer to use the base rates...
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Re: Buying: Price for X3 3.0 w/Premium and Cold Wthr Pkg [kyfdx] by vbak
Mar 23, 2005 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 23, 2005 7:35 am)

Thanks for the quick response on the invoice price premium of about $800-1200.
Do you think there is some sort of cash back offer if one purchases the car outright?
 
Also is the invoice price the right benchmark?
 
Thanks, Vimarsh
#633 of 1544
Re: Buying: Price for X3 3.0 w/Premium and Cold Wthr Pkg [vbak] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 23, 2005 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: vbak (Mar 23, 2005 9:23 am)

No incentives on the X3, other than good lease rates...
 
If you look at invoice on KBB.com, that is usually very accurate.. I'd start negotiations at $500-$700 over that.. I'd try to target $1200 over as the max, but you might have to shop multiple dealers to get that..
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Buying: Price for 2005 X3 2.5 by 04eph
Mar 23, 2005 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 23, 2005 9:29 am)

Hi. I'd like to start by saying that this is my first post (discovered this site today!).
 
I am in the market for 2005 X3 2.5i SAV, Jet Black, Sand Beige Sensatec Leatherette, Steptronic 5-speed Automatic Transmission, Foglights, Xenon Adaptive Headlights, and Auxiliary Input Adapter Cable. BMWUSA site gave me 33,370 as configured. (MRSP 30,300). This will be my first SUV/SAV and my first brand new car. I am in Northern Virginia/DC Metro Area and I'd like to know:
 
1. Which dealers are hassle free, friendly, trustworthy?
 
2. What price I should shoot for? (I have a 8.5-9.5K trade in, and I have an Excellent 740+ Credit Score)
 
I can buy this car today or this week or in the next couple of weeks. Thank you for your help.
#635 of 1544
Re: Got first quote and financing terms from dealer [kyfdx] by ttothes
Mar 23, 2005 (2:41 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 23, 2005 7:33 am)

awesome.....thanks kydfx!!! very enlightening info....you're right about there being some hidden stuff in there as my tax rate will be 6.25% (approx. $48.63 per month). i'll see what i can get out of them....
 
if you get a chance to answer, do you think the sales price is ok or should i negotiate further there as well?
 
thanks again!
#636 of 1544
Re: Got first quote and financing terms from dealer [ttothes] by ttothes
Mar 23, 2005 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: ttothes (Mar 23, 2005 2:41 pm)

oops....~ $64.84 tax per month.
 
thanks again!

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