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BMW X3, SUV
#1782 of 1822 2012 X3 XDrive35i
Dec 13, 2012 (4:42 pm)
Dealer has a 2012 X3 XDrive35i with 12,500miles on it. It is full loaded. Original MSRP is $55,000. They offer me $42,500. Is this a good deal? It seems only save me $6,000 from a new car.
#1783 of 1822 Seems like invoice price is attainable for 2013 X3
Dec 15, 2012 (3:01 pm)
Have got two quotes from different Bay Area dealers- both prices are $500 over invoice. This is before I negotiate- seems like getting it at invoice (before any holiday discounts) should be possible for December.
#1784 of 1822 Re: Dealer price on '13 x3 2.8 [wnofearw]
Dec 16, 2012 (7:26 am)
From Edmunds, 2013 X3 28i, cold weather + premium + tech, MSRP: $46,745, Invoice: $43,000. Seems to me that you can buy this car at invoice or even below invoice now
#1785 of 1822 Re: good price ? [pzzcat]
Dec 17, 2012 (6:32 pm)
Acc to Edmunds, the invoice price for that combo is $41000. If that price does not include the holiday discount, it is good.
#1786 of 1822 Re: good price ? [jay_2013]
Dec 20, 2012 (1:32 pm)
Is there any Holdback for BMW right now?
#1787 of 1822 Advertising and training fees?
Dec 21, 2012 (4:05 pm)
Dealer claims the invoice price published on edmunds.com is lower than the real invoice. They added a $400 advertising (maco) and a $180 fee for "training". They agreed to sell at invoice but "their invoice". They said all BMW dealers in the Bay Area would charge the same cost. Is this a legitimate add-on?
#1788 of 1822 Re: Advertising and training fees? [jay_2013]
by kyfdx HOST
Dec 21, 2012 (6:34 pm)
Yes... their invoice is likely Edmund's invoice plus those two charges..
#1789 of 1822 Price paid 12/28/12 for 28i
Dec 29, 2012 (12:45 pm)
Premium pkg, premium sound, cold weather pkg and deep sea blue metallic paint:
Per Edmunds, MSRP $45,045; Invoice $41,455; dealer added MACO $300 and Training fee $180 to the invoice for a total invoice of $41,935. I gave the dealer a profit of $500.
Price paid $42,435 less $1000 for financing $8,000 (the financing will add $11.52 per month until paid off after 6 months).
The sales person said that the Edmunds invoice is too low since the invoice is 93% of MSRP. She was wrong. It's 92%. When they add in the non-discounted delivery fee plus MACO and training, then it works out to 93%.
#1790 of 1822 2012 X3 28i pricing question
Jan 01, 2013 (8:42 pm)
BASE MSRP $38,500
Jet Black $0
Beige Leatherette $0
Silver Matte Trim $0
Cold Weather Package $700
Comfort Access keyless entry $500
Navigation system $2,150
Panoramic moonroof $1,350
Real Time Traffic Information $0
Rear manual side window shades $250
BMW Assist with enhanced Bluetooth and USB $0
Park Distance Control $750
Rear-view camera $400
BMW Rubber Floor Mats $81
Online Information Services $0
Destination & Handling: $895
Total MSRP as Built $45,576
Edmunds Invoice $42271 (including floor mats)
OTD price = 42670 + 2560.2 (tax) + 172 (Tags, registration) = 45,402 - 1000 (holiday credit) = 44,402.
No training, advertising, finance or document charges at all.
Is it a good price?
Thanks for your feedback-
#1791 of 1822 Re: 2012 X3 28i pricing question [mvreddy48]
Jan 01, 2013 (10:34 pm)
IMHO you got a good price. There is one thing though. The base price MSRP is correct while the invoice that you paid is $320 high. This represents the price increase for 2013. The new MSRP is $38,850 and an invoice of $35,740. Adding up your list came to $41,951. You showed $42,271. There's the $320 increase! The base invoice that you should have paid was $35,420. So you paid $719 over invoice but invoice includes MACO and the training charges. The MACO charge varies but the training charge is always $180. So if the MACO was $300 then your invoice would be $41,951+300+180=$42,431. OTD price $42,670-$42,431=$239 dealer profit. A good deal. BTW MACO and training are not part of MSRP. The extra $320 should be questioned if you ordered in 2012. Good luck.