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BMW X3, SUV
#1644 of 1822 Re: Quote on 2013 BMW X3 [gauravgulati]
by stactum
Mar 25, 2012 (7:03 pm)
I spoke with Concours and International in MKE, Zimbrick, and bunch of dealers at IL (Knauz - since they are part of costco program but it's $1K over invoice, Patrick BMW, Motor Werke, and lots of others).
MKE dealers offered me 1500 off MSRP and I test drove 2012 X3 at both. Concours was very strict with pricing, International seemed very strict but after I told them that I got one from IL they said: "too bad you didn't give us a chance to match the offer, woud've saved you a trip to Chicago" - so if you are getting some good offers from IL - it will be worth asking local dealers including Appleton to match the offer. For them sale is a sale, and even though they may not make money off your sale - it gives them volume.
I ended up getting at Motor Werke, but Patrick BMW was in the running also. MW gave me no BS offer right from the bat, and then matched Patrick BMW matching. Fun negotiations!
Also, I don't think it matters where you get your car and where you service it since service doesn't necessarily care where the car was purchased.
Good luck negotiating!
#1645 of 1822 Re: MSRP Discounts [dlcole76054]
by stactum
Mar 25, 2012 (7:07 pm)
7.1% puts it at about invoice. There is 7% markup on the car and 9% markup on packages and accessories.
I am sure you can get better discount if you get outgoing model year or something from dealer's lot. Any special order for upcoming model year with 7% discount seems pretty good deal. Also have to consider any kind of incentives from BMW for upcoming MY, but I don't think there will be good ones, maybe just APR.
#1646 of 1822 Re: Quote on 2013 BMW X3 [stactum]
by gauravgulati
Apr 08, 2012 (2:23 pm)
Thanks much for sharing your experience. I e-mailed for Quotes from all dealers within 250mi of me and it includes all the names you've listed above =))
I also have Costco Membership...would try that with Knauz. Some great tips, man (given that negotiations can be a pain).
Would it be OK for me to use your contact as Referral when reaching out to the dealers you listed above (esp. Werke)?
I plugged in my specs in Truecar.com & this is what I got:
Premium Pkg - Tech. Pkg - Convenience Pkg - Cold Weather I Pkg
Vermillion Red - Nevada Mohave Leather trim - Fineline Wave Wood trim
Aluminum Roof Rails
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Dealer Factory MSRP
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BASE 35,420 35,420 38,500
Holdback 1,101 n/a n/a
Dealer 0 n/a n/a
Incentives
Regional 500 500 n/a
Ad Fee
Dest. Fee 895 895 895
Cust. Incentive 0 n/a n/a
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TOTAL 44,315 45,415 48,845
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Based on the above, I'm thinking 46-46,500 + TTL should be a fair price. What say?
#1647 of 1822 Re: Quote on 2013 BMW X3 [stactum]
by larryxu
Apr 10, 2012 (6:21 pm)
May I ask the Sale Price is pre-tax or plus-tax? In other words, is your OTD $41250? Thanks.
#1648 of 1822 Re: Quote on 2013 BMW X3 [larryxu]
by gauravgulati
Apr 10, 2012 (7:28 pm)
Larryxu
Stactum's post clearly mentions "Sale Price: $41,450 + TTL" (TTL - Tax, Title, License/Registration)
MSRP: $44,595 (including $895 destination)
Sale Price: $41,450 + TTL
It's about $3,145 discount (about 7.1%) off msrp
Hope this helps.
#1649 of 1822 Re: Quote on 2013 BMW X3 [gauravgulati]
by larryxu
Apr 11, 2012 (12:19 am)
Sorry still a bit confused. '$41,450 + TTL' means $41,450 is plus TTL (TTL included in $41,450, so the final price paid as OTD is $41,450) or the sale price is $41,450 without TTL (so the final OTD paid should be $41,450 + some more dollars for TTL)?
#1650 of 1822 Re: Quote on 2013 BMW X3 [larryxu]
by gauravgulati
Apr 11, 2012 (6:04 am)
Yes. "+ TTL" means Tax, Title & License extra. Because stactum purchased from out of state, he'll have to pay TTL at the time of getting registration in WI ( unless the dealer is somehow able to deduct WI tax.. which I highly doubt)
#1651 of 1822 Re: Quote on 2013 BMW X3 [gauravgulati]
by gauravgulati
Apr 15, 2012 (3:20 pm)
So, I finally ordered my 2013 X3 xDrive 28i yesterday. Yayyy!! Delivery in 3-4 weeks
Vermillion Red - Nevada Oyster Leather - Fineline Wave Wood trim - Aluminum Roof Rails
Premium Pkg - Tech. Pkg - Convenience Pkg - Cold Weather I Pkg
MSRP - $48,845
OTD Selling Price - $46,000 (Incl. Doc. Fees & Dest.) + TTL extra
Discount - $2,845+ (just about 6% off MSRP)
A.S
Bill Jacobs BMW, Naperville, IL was first to give the BO (best offer) of $46k + Doc. (Initial offer $46,635).
A.S
International BMW, Milwaukee, WI matched the offer. (He also gave the best Initial Offer $46,345)
My local dealership (B.S & R.H
Bergstrom, Appleton WI) were able to match the best Offer & included the Doc. fee in it as well. They were most courteous, accommodating, very spontaneous and transparent. They didn't even push me for Financing from BMW or Bergstrom. Even so, they suggested some CUs which had lower Rates than their Dealership. Extremely Professional & knowledgeable
Anyone looking to buy a Beemer in WI/IL region - I would definitely recommend checking with the above listed dealerships for excellent offers & treatment.
Good Luck with your Ultimate Driving Machines!
#1652 of 1822 Re: Quote on 2013 BMW X3 [gauravgulati]
by radoncgs
Apr 15, 2012 (4:36 pm)
Hi, is this the N20 engine? Please let me know how you like it thanks.
#1653 of 1822 Re: Quote on 2013 BMW X3 [radoncgs]
by gauravgulati
Apr 15, 2012 (5:01 pm)
Yes, It is N20. 2013 X3 2.8 are N20 only. I didn't Test Drive N20 X3 2.8 (You probably won't find one on the lots yet for a test drive as people who pre-ordered, are getting their vehicles delivered now. I test drove 2012 X3 2.8 (inline 6 cyl) - in March and I did test drive 3-series (N20) a few days back. I must say, it was kool. Unless you drive both engines back 2 back - you probably won't know the difference. And, N20 is proclaimed to be faster, more powerful & more fuel efficient (with 2013 X3 having more standard features) than the 2012 X3 - ofcourse at a revised Base Price
Verdict: I liked it and ordered it. But, everyone is different.
Hope this helps.