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Replying to: timmboj (Aug 27, 2005 10:39 am) You also pay the local option tax up front (the city/county part of the sales tax). This is your local tax rate (your rate - 7% state) on the first $1,600 and 2.75% on the next $1,600. In my county, the local rates is 2.25% on top of the 7% state rate, so the up front local option tax due on a car SALE or LEASE is $80 ($1,600 x 0.0225 = $36 + ($1,600 x 0.0275 = $44) = $80). If your local tax is 1.25% on top of the state 7%, then you would pay $64 in local option tax, 7% on any cash you put down to reduce the price of the truck, and then pay 7% on whatever the payment works out to be. Example: $300 and month payment = $321 ($300 x 1.07) with tax. Dennis
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I'm wondering if the following is a good deal on X3 3.0 in NY. X3 3.0 - Tit Silver, Grey Leather, Cold Weather package, Satellite Radio, Privacy Glass MSRP: $40,450 Cap Cost: $39,400 Residual 60% - 15K Money Factor: .00100 Price $452 39 month lease Price does not include $625 acquisition fee $500 Security Deposit $452 first month $1528 - NYS Taxes  8.375%? I'm not knowledgeable about whether this is a good deal or not. Any help given would be very much appreciated.
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Replying to: dwynne (Aug 29, 2005 8:15 am) Yes, 9.25% total tax in Knoxville (7% state, 2.25% local). 7% tax on the monthly fee. I can remember that part. I'm a little confused in the first $1,600 and next $1,600. What are these? Where does this $1,600 figure come from? Or do i simply pay a one-time $80 fee for local tax no matter the cost of the car?
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Replying to: timmboj (Aug 29, 2005 1:46 pm) In your case and mine the local tax is 2.25%. On large ticket, single item purchases (a car, plasma TV, etc) the locals can only collect on the first $3,200 of the item. So if you BUY a car you would pay 7% on the full purchase price, and 2.25% on the first $1,600 and 2.75% on the next $1,600 ($80 total). On a lease, it is done more or less the same way. Rather than have you pay 9.25% on top of each payment, they have you pay the local option tax up front ($80) and only add the state tax to the payment. This is to your advantage in almost every case. For example, if your payment was $500 for 36 months you pay $535 x 36 = $19,260 + the $80 up front. If they taxed local on the payment, then you would pay $546.25 x 36 = $19,665 which is more money. Obviously, on a higher dollar car with a payment this would save even more (on a $1,000 a month lease it saves over $900 over the course of a 36 month lease). Does this make sense? You go ahead and pay the local tax on the first $3,200 of a single big-ticket item up front, then avoid the local tax for the rest of the lease. So just figure on $80 for the local tax, plus tags, dealer fees, lease acquisition fee, etc at signing, then 7% on top of the monthly payment for state tax. Dennis
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Replying to: dwynne (Aug 29, 2005 2:18 pm) |
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Replying to: rgottheim (Aug 29, 2005 10:57 am) So, maybe the same payment with only $2100 due at signing, instead of $3100 would be a good deal... regards, kyfdx
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Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 29, 2005 6:08 pm) Thanks for your reply. I understand what you're saying, and it's good to see the numbers make sense and it seems that the dealership is being fair, but aren't those costs which add up to $3100 sort of fixed. Should I concentrate on getting the cap cost to be lower and getting a lower monthly lease price? Or am I just missing something. Thanks again. -rgottheim
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Replying to: rgottheim (Aug 29, 2005 7:55 pm) The end result, is that they have to lower the selling price by $1000 to achieve that... Then they take $1000 of that "upfront" amount, and add it to the selling price... Put another way.. Just because there are $3100 of costs due at inception, doesn't mean that you have to pay them all upfront... you can roll just about any or all of it into the monthly cost... They can structure the lease just about any way you want it... I prefer to pay only the 1st payment and security deposit upfront... I like to roll everything else into the cap cost... It doesn't matter if it is taxes, acq.fee, whatever... you can roll it all in.. So, lower the payment, or lower the upfront... $1000 less is $1000 less.... regards, kyfdx
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Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 29, 2005 8:07 pm) One last question. What should the invoice price be on this X3? And should the cap cost be $500 or $1000 over the invoice? It's an x3 with the premium package, cold weather package, satellite radio, and privacy glass. rgottheim
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Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 25, 2005 7:30 pm) Sorry for all the questions. I'm kind of nervous about all this and I want to make sure I don't get a bad deal.
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