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Water Leaks -- How to Find and Fix

420 messages,  Last post on Nov 16, 2009 at 7:13 PM

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Re: Water flooding on passenger side of Mitsubishi Eclipse GS 2000 [Mr_Shif by irir123
Apr 28, 2009 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 28, 2009 1:01 pm)

Thanks for the input - my mechanic took out the plastic cowling and we did see some water collected in the chamber below that - but that still does not explain how it is getting into the car, does it ?if the junk collected there is the reason, how do I clean it up ?
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Re: Water flooding on passenger side of Mitsubishi Eclipse GS 2000 [Mr_Shif [irir123] by kiawah
Apr 28, 2009 (2:31 pm)
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Replying to: irir123 (Apr 28, 2009 1:17 pm)

If you have water pooling in there, that's undoubtedly your problem as shifty indicates. Get a wet/dry shop vac, and suck all that gunk out of there. There are drain holes on the bottom, make sure you open them up with a wire or something so the water that goes in drains out (and not in your car).
 
There are a holes thru the firewall for wires/cables/tubes/etc, that if water builds up in there the water will then go thru the firewall and into the car.
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Re: Water flooding on passenger side of Mitsubishi Eclipse GS 2000 [Mr_Shif [irir123] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 28, 2009 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: irir123 (Apr 28, 2009 1:17 pm)

yep you got a fishtank. No water should be in there. Do as kiawah suggests and then unplug the drain holes on both sides.
 
That cavity is not meant to be waterproof. Every time you accelerate, water will slosh against grommets or cabling or wiring going through the firewall.
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Re: Rain Dripping Into Sunroof Mgmt. System [Mr_Shiftright] by 2007santafese
Apr 29, 2009 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 27, 2009 9:02 pm)

OK - let me try to explain again.
 
To answer your question - no, not into my car. When my sunroof is closed, water drips into the water management system, but has not leaked into the interior of my car (not on my seats, carpet, etc.). It isn't creating a problem (yet), but rather I don't understand how it can be explained as "normal" for the gasket/seal to not keep water out. Frankly, it gives me a headache.
 
Note that the gasket is a soft, fuzzy rubber seal. I hope this is provides a clearer description. My question for the original post again:
 
1) Do you think it is normal or acceptable for this to be happening?
  
2) If it is, what (if anything) should I be doing as routine maintenance (i.e. silicon lubricant on the gasket)?
  
3) Do you have any insight about whether the sunroof drains are problematic in this model (I can't see the back drains, but the front are clear)?
  
4) I live in Upstate New York - do you think I will run into a problem during the winter with this "normal" problem?
 
Thanks...
 
Marty
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Re: Rain Dripping Into Sunroof Mgmt. System [2007santafese] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 29, 2009 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: 2007santafese (Apr 29, 2009 12:37 pm)

OHHHHHH....now I know what you're talking about....the term "water management" threw me...it's not a common usage for an automobile, but is a good descriptor actually.
 
Contrary to popular belief...TA DA....sunroofs are NOT completely watertight, so yes, it is normal for a small amount of water to enter the drains and exit the vehicle even with the sunroof securely shut.
 
If your drains were plugged up, the water WOULD enter the cabin.
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Re: Rain Dripping Into Sunroof Mgmt. System [Mr_Shiftright] by 2007santafese
Apr 29, 2009 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 29, 2009 1:57 pm)

The terminology actually came from dealer description...I suppose everything is more complicated these days.
 
OK - if it is normal, is there anything I should be doing to maintain the gasket with silicon lubricant, etc.? Have you ever heard of anyone having trouble during the winter?
 
Thanks again for your insight...
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Re: Rain Dripping Into Sunroof Mgmt. System [2007santafese] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 29, 2009 (8:37 pm)
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Replying to: 2007santafese (Apr 29, 2009 6:32 pm)

probably the best thing you can do is keep the channels free of debris.
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Re: Rain Dripping Into Sunroof Mgmt. System [2007santafese] by ralka
Jul 02, 2009 (8:32 pm)
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Replying to: 2007santafese (Apr 29, 2009 6:32 pm)

water does pass by the sunroof gasket , different vehicles have different gasket and roof configurations and some will have more leakage past the seal than others .
This is normal and the water than enters the water management system draining to the front or rear drain hoses. If the sunroof itself is out of adjustment it can allow excess water into the management system and overload the drains and leaking into the headliner and eventually onto the floor. it is always a good idea to lubricate the gasket with a silicone or dielectric grease (clear) works very well to. always remove debris from the water management tray, as it will eventually clog the drainskk
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1999 Pontiac Grand Am by imsobuffalo
Jul 23, 2009 (5:07 pm)
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There is water coming in from my driver side window along the top of the window (where it begins to bend toward the windshield). It's come in as it's been raining, which has been very frequent as of late. I checked the seal around the door and it looks to be in fine condition. What else could it be, and what would I be looking at in the way of repair cost?

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