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#7002 of 7624 2006 Tacoma fast cold idle
May 14, 2006 (5:44 am)
I have a 2006 Tacoma 2.7 5sp access cab with 3000 miles. Since birth, the cold engine start is 3,000 to 3,200 RPM. Many trips to the dealer and there is no "fix" because of the "fly by wire" system.
It takes a good 2-3 minutes for the engine idle at 1500 so I can use the clutch. Using the 5sp at 3K is impossible.
I am a master mechanic with over 40 + years of experience and I am a master technition and administrator on the www.2carpros.com web site.
One of the Toyota techs I have known for 30 + years suggested "fooling" the temp sensor which I did so the ECM would think it was 140 degrees.
It did no good what so ever. I am at a loss and in typical Toyota fashion they said, I have to deal with it. The battle lines are drawn but I would like to find a solution as a matter of good mechanics.
Has any one had this problem or is it an isolated case??
Lee Parmeter, Biloxi, Ms
#7003 of 7624 Re: PAINT CHIPS SUCK [tacomalemon]
May 14, 2006 (8:09 am)
I have also bought a Tacoma from the same dealer as you back in June 05 and while I do have some chips it is not nearly as bad as what you have. I was wondering what the build date was on that truck? I hear that Nissan is using water based paint like Toyota and is having their problems too. I have read of the manual transmission problem as well but I seen that alot of people got that repaired under warranty.
BTW thats a pretty good idea of getting your point across to Toyota putting "lemon" decals on the truck. That should get some attention from them.
#7004 of 7624 Re: PAINT CHIPS SUCK [bill55]
May 14, 2006 (1:24 pm)
I dont get it I've owned three Toyota Trucks although not a 05 or newer and all paint jobs from factory were magnificant now all of a sudden new trucks have paint chipping,no body states where the paint is chipping on the vehicle either? You cant use waterbased paint on cars for obvisous reasons ,are you drunk too.
#7005 of 7624 Re: PAINT CHIPS SUCK [tacomalemon]
May 14, 2006 (5:36 pm)
Love your site. Many things come to mind when viewing. Number one, why did you pay 35K for a used truck when they are 28K new? Number 2, buying a lemon is like having an ex wife, you picked it. Number 3, you bought it with 8.5K on it. How can you say that the previous drivers did not abuse it by running in salt water or they DID run through loose gravel and chipped it, but buffed it out to make it not noticeable right away. Number 4, maybe they ran the crap out of it jamming gears and tore them up. Number 5, maybe your other trucks didn't kick dirt up on the back end, buy aerodynamics change. I know my backend is always dirty.
I love the red truck that is also posted on your site. There is obvious vandalism (probably by the owner). Notice the long scratch and the letter A scratched in the paint. Really shows the credibility of the site.
#7006 of 7624 Re: PAINT CHIPS SUCK [ustazzaf]
May 14, 2006 (7:41 pm)
I am also having problems with my Tacoma. I just bought it last year and it already has about 5 paint chips.And it only has about 27,000 miles on the odometer. I had a 1999 Tacoma and I never had a problem like this before.
#7007 of 7624 Re: PAINT CHIPS SUCK [iqbaldhillon2]
May 16, 2006 (11:08 am)
Just wondering......do you guys who have alot of paint chips have:
1) mudflaps front and rear as well as running boards?
2) Do you drive on unpaved roads? I do so occasionally, but drive at a crawl when not of pavement.
Your chipping complaints don't mention these variables.
My '05 has no chips to speak of.
#7008 of 7624 Re: PAINT CHIPS SUCK [iqbaldhillon2]
May 16, 2006 (5:45 pm)
Toyota uses lead-free paint and therein lies the root cause of paint chipping easily.
#7009 of 7624 Re: PAINT CHIPS SUCK [len888]
May 16, 2006 (6:08 pm)
All manufacturers use the new paint.
#7010 of 7624 Re: PAINT CHIPS SUCK [len888]
May 16, 2006 (6:42 pm)
Saying the paint type is the cause for paint chips is like saying that windshields are defective if rocks chip them. It is the lack of protection that causes chips in paint and windshields. The body my curve in a little different than other vehicles, making the lower panels more likely to get chips. Installing mud flaps and running boards will eliminate that problem. If the paint is flaking (see most GMs of the 80's and 90's), that is defective paint. I have not heard anyone claim paint flake on Toys (of course I will now). Just like some vehicles are not as likely to get a window chip because of the design, some vehicles may not get paint chips because of their design. It is not a flaw. If you never drive on roads with gravel, you won't have the problem. If you do, you modify as needed. If I live where it never rains, I don't need a canopy. If I do, I modify my truck with a canopy to protect my stuff.
#7011 of 7624 Re: PAINT CHIPS SUCK [len888]
May 17, 2006 (4:12 am)
"2) Do you drive on unpaved roads? I do so occasionally, but drive at a crawl when not of pavement."
FWIW, Paved roads can chip any paint and windshields.
- Some locales use a product called "chipseal" where small stones are "glued" together with a thick plasticky oil. This stuff sheds pebbles and sharp chips all through it's life cycle. This stuff is CHEAP, so more and more DOT's are applying it to secondary roads.
- Many locales no longer screen winter sand as well as they used to. This sand can contain small pebbles, GLASS CHIPS, etc... when applied to roads.
- Highway and and strip mall construction sites are constant sources of rocks and other abrasives.
What to do? SLOW DOWN in construction zones, and where constuction vehicles often travel. 40 MPH stones do a lot less damage than 70 MPH stones. LEAVE MORE SPACE between you and the vehicle in front of you, letting the kicked up debris settle back to the surface. Don't drive behind the road sander (this should be obvious, but I see it every storm).
Most motor and bicyclists are very aware of the above conditions, because they are painful.
My wife sandblasted a '91 Mazda Protege in just a few months. There was nothing wrong with Mazda's paint, and it never left pavement.
Often, a good indicator of a finish problem is when the windshield is pristine, but the paint is chipped. Chips in the windshield? Debris!