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#7 of 7580 2005 Tacoma Lineup by enolagaia Mar 08, 2004 (7:03 am)
Toyota's giving out zero usable info on the '05 lineup (other than the premium X-Runner). Some of the issues still outstanding include:   - Base model configuration (will Toyota follow Nissan and ditch the regular cab?) - Projected vehicle weight (a big clue to engines, etc.) - Engine range. Sure, the X-Runner gets the 4.0, but the current S-Runner has a larger - than - baseline (3.4 vs. 3.0) V6. A V8 option has been wishlisted for eons, but there's a lot of chatter (elsewhere) claiming Toyota rep's say 'no'. If they try for a 4-cylinder option, it's gonna have to be big (e.g., the current 2.7). - Transmissions. The X-Runner gets a 6-speed. But what about the other models? Remember, Toyota's been eliminating manuals for the last decade... After all these years, they _still_ haven't caved in and offered manuals on either the PreRunners or the Double Cabs.
#8 of 7580 spleck by alpha01 Mar 08, 2004 (3:27 pm)
Don't count on seeing the 3.3L V6 in any Toyota "real" truck applications, as it was designed for use with the many iterations of FWD/AWD Camry platform, not for the tougher, more demanding use of Toyota's RWD/4WD trucks.   ~alpha
#9 of 7580 I hope that the 4.0 V6 is also offered in the 2005 by kurt123 Mar 09, 2004 (3:26 pm)
Prerunner models much like the 3.4 V6 was offered in the Xtra and doublecab models! I think it would be more than adequate for this truck, but a V8 would be awesome too! Replies to this message: kkim4all (Oct 18, 2005 4:36 pm) volley (Oct 18, 2005 5:13 pm) demoncleaner (Oct 19, 2005 5:58 am) jdvailco (Oct 19, 2005 7:23 am) and 5 more... dockeen (Oct 19, 2005 7:16 pm)
#10 of 7580 alpha01 by spleck Mar 10, 2004 (8:56 am)
I'd still say its a toss up. I would never consider a 2.4 or 2.7L a REAL truck engine either. The big issue is whether they go RWD with the 3.3L engine. The Highlander and Sienna are both using it, and I think its a suitable upgrade for on-road/light duty use (esp. non Pre-Runner/4WD).   My main contention is that the 3.4L is old. It's seeing minimal use in the Tundra, whose line is now dominated by the 4.7L V8. It's apparent that the 4.0L is coming to the Tacoma, and will probably dominate the line.   The general trend now is to consolidate engines and platforms, so I don't see Toyota keeping a 2.4L, 2.7L, 3.4L, 4.0L, and a 4.7L in their truck lineups.   Does anyone know if the Tacoma 2.4L is related to the Camry/RAV4/Highlander 2.4L?? If it is, then its most likely staying for the economy Tacoma. If Toyota puts a RWD tranny on the 3.3L, then I think it may replace both the 2.7L and the 3.4L. Toyota would rather you bought the 4.0L for REAL truck use.   I'd also say there's only a 1% chance of seeing the 4.7L V8 in the Tacoma until there's a bigger engine available for the Tundra. Replies to this message: oldman2 (May 29, 2004 9:00 am)
#11 of 7580 enolagaia by spleck Mar 10, 2004 (9:02 am)
The current baseline is the same 3.4L as in the S-Runner, so I think the primary features of the X-Runner over the baseline is the body styling, X-frame, and the 6-speed, not the 4.0L engine.   I just want a 4.0L double cab 4WD with a 5-speed. And other than the X-runner body kit, I like the looks of the 2005 Tacoma.
#12 of 7580 well by alpha01 Mar 10, 2004 (12:19 pm)
Its not much of a toss up. The 2.4L and 2.7L long stroke 4s that you mention were intentionally designed as heavier duty/workhorse engines coupled with rear wheel drive. Neither revs very high or quickly, but both produce a decent amount of low end torque, with the 2.7L producing more torque than any other Toyota 4.   Despite the fact that the 3.3L is used in heavier vehicles such as the Sienna, HL, and RX, it was designed for moderate duty use, and not with rear wheel drive, or 4WD. (The Sienna, HL, and RX use a front wheel drive biased AWD system).   The 2.4L in the current Tacoma is not in the least related to the 2.4L in the Camry/HL/RAV4/tC.   I agree with the fact that Toyota would be using too many engines if the Taco 2.4L, 2.7L, and the Taco/Tundra 3.4L continue on. My guess is that only one or perhaps NONE of these three will serve as the base in the new Tacoma. Maybe we'll see a toughened version of the Camry's 2.4L, but I doubt it. In terms of the Tundra, I can easily see Toyota dropping the 3.4L V6 completely, with or without a base replacement. VERY FEW Tundras sell with the basic V6 and auto combination.   ~alpha
#13 of 7580 Hybrids? by buffalonickel Mar 30, 2004 (7:02 pm)
I have been looking for info on the hybrids in the pickup trucks. I know the large block V8 (man is that an awesome sight or what?) that is yet unavailable may have a "stepdown" engine that powers up with the V8 and economizes to the gas mileage of a 6 cylinder on the highway. I understand that will be introduced in the second generation production of that truck.   But I have yet to see anything on the Tacomas. Seems to me the bread and butter truck from Toyota was the Hilux and it may be a good one to introduce a hybrid that is maybe a six cylinder with the economy of the 4. Maybe that is in the works?   I also know that gasoline will rise in cost to over $2 a gallon this summer. It is already higher than $ 2 a gallon in California from what I understand. Gets expensive for long-distance commuters! Time for the hybrids to show up in the car shows!   B
#14 of 7580 Engines by got1b Apr 01, 2004 (7:41 am)
Maybe this has already been stated but I figured the standard engine in the new Tacoma will be the 4.0L V6 currently in the 4Runner. I test drove a 4Runner yesterday just to see what it was like. It was a nice ride. Assuming the new Tacoma will be lighter then the 4 Runner, she should really cruise. I'd think that Toyota wioll offer a 4 cylinder for the economy market and the super charger for the HP market. Its hard to say whether we'll see the IForce V8 offered in the Tacoma like it is in the 4 Runner (which if you look at the dash, the vehicles are highly similar). With Toyota putting out a larger engine for the Titan, maybe we'll see the IForce in the Tacoma. This will help it better compete against the New Dakota and set it apart from the New Frontier whose engine has similar stats to the 4.0L.   The question is, what would be the gain? The 4.0L V6 gets more horsepower but less torque then the IForce. I think the only real gain would be for towing. But is the Tacoma made to tow more than 5,500 lbs? At the same time you'll loose fuel economy. Regardless, it'll be a great fall as these new trucks compete against one another. I just hope the New Tacoma retains all of its off road capability. I really hope the Crew Cab has the same sliding rear window as the Tundra.
#15 of 7580 Towing by moparbad Apr 01, 2004 (12:29 pm)
As a light truck the Tacoma is maxxed out for towing at 5,000 lbs no matter what engine they put in it. The trailer is too heavy and pushing the truck around when you reach 5,000 lbs and greater. Just my opinion. Pulling a trailer with a car with total weight of about 4,500 lbs combined with a 2003 Tacoma Xcab 4WD V6 was fine as far as power, however, the pucker factor was fully engaged during braking. A compact truck is good for it's intended use, towing heavy loads is better left to full size 1/2, 3/4 or whichever truck is appropriate for the need. I laughed for a long time at people complaining about the tow ratings on the new Colorado and Canyon.
#16 of 7580 Moparbad by got1b Apr 01, 2004 (2:25 pm)
Thats what I thought. It doesn't make any sense to put a V8 in. The new Tacoma will be larger, so it should be able to tow a little more, maybe the 5500-6,000 area.

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