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#598 of 7624 Re: Crack In The '05 Tacoma Bedliner! [whitedove]
Dec 03, 2004 (5:17 am)
The story from the other website is shown below. I'm not sure if I can make the pictures show up, but there's a vertical tear in the composite material, which occurs in the back box wall behind the driver, and is about six inches, or less, from the left wall corner. The tear is not opened much and appears as a white line. It ripped from the top down.
The composite material has been modified. The Tacomas I've seen have the composite running up and over the bed rail. It appears that it has been cut away for the truck cap in these pictures. I'm thinking that he may have induced the crack by cutting away the composite.
Cracked my 05 Tacoma composite bed...
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I took my 05 Double Cab 4x4 Long Bed out 4x4'ing this weekend in and around Death Valley. We went on some pretty rough washboard roads and did some boulder crawling up some washes. I have done much worse with my old truck - a 2002 Tacoma 4x4 ext. cab. I also had the same shell that was mounted on my old truck on the new truck.
When I got home and removed the shell (as I always do so I can drive the truck to work), I noticed a huge crack on the driver side of the bed. The crack goes all the way through the bed. Pictures are attached.
Needless to say I am very pissed off that one 4x4 trip cracked the bed. I would have thought Toyota would have tested this material thouroughly before selling them to the public. I hope this will be easy to warranty.
Anyone want to buy a slightly used 05 Tacoma?
#600 of 7624 Re: Crack In The '05 Tacoma Bedliner! [coinneach]
Dec 03, 2004 (5:05 pm)
The bed rails are not part of the composite bed itself. They are detachable. Usually when a cap is installed they are removed to achieve an equivilent height so the foam seal can do it's job.
#601 of 7624 Re: Ever hear of Toyota Dealer Association (TDA) fee? [purestock]
Dec 03, 2004 (9:10 pm)
The TDA is an advertising cost that Toyota passes along to the dealer on each vehicle, and is included on their invoice.
It's my understanding that the purpose of the holdback is to cover the interest the dealer pays to have the vehicle in inventory. Theoretically, if a dealer sells the vehicle the day it hits the lot, he gets all the holdback. The longer the vehicle is in his inventory, the less of the holdback he makes as profit.
Theoretically, everything's negotiable, including TDA and holdback, but I've never been successful buying a Toyota for less than "invoice" price, which included the TDA, and usually the fleet office wants $200 over invoice. The profit the dealer made was from the holdback amount.
#602 of 7624 Re: drove one last night [hyperformance]
Dec 03, 2004 (9:47 pm)
I drove a Dcab Prerunner TRD Sport a couple weeks ago, and though I liked it a lot, the next day I saw the 05 Frontier at the auto show. I'm on Toyota pickup #8 and am a very loyal customer, but I think Nissan finally got a leg up. It has 265 HP, leather seats, and looks like a mini Titan. Still can't find enough information on them to determine if they offer navigation. Irritates the helouta me that mfrs don't provide the same options or features on their smaller trucks as they do on the comparable SUV. There's no reason we couldn't have had a V8, leather and navigation in a Tacoma, if they can put it in a 4Runner. Mfrs purposely manipulate us to buy the monster truck. I can buy a new full size Dodge Ram SLT quad cab with a Hemi and 20s for less than a Tacoma Dcab. The main reason I've been loyal to Toyota is their resale value, but when u have to pay an extra $5,000 to get it, it's a wash.
#603 of 7624 Re: 4Runner look for the Tacoma [motownusa]
Dec 03, 2004 (10:00 pm)
I also think the 4Runner looks better than the Taco. It's baffling to me why they make so little interchangable between the 2. That's so OLD GM.. LOL Not cost effective #1 !!! And it's also totally unacceptable that u can't get the same options from one to the other... like a V8, leather, and navigation. If the new Frontier offers navigation, it wins for sure, since I know it has leather and more HP. My 01 Taco only has 21K miles on it, but I'm ready for something that's more up to date. And in my experience, I'm betting the V8 would get better gas mileage because it wouldn't have to work as hard. Actually now I'll have to check the 4Runner forum to see
Dec 03, 2004 (11:28 pm)
I have been excited about driving the Taco 05 edition for over a month. What a disappointment. I am not sure what truck people are driving, but this one reminds me of a early 80's F150. I was in a DC Taco 4x4, off road package. I drove every 4x4 SUV and truck model on the toyota lot today, but I wanted to buy the Taco (it looks great, seats are great, good interior styling), but this is the noisiest truck I have been in years. The engine and wind noise are terrible. If you don't think so, drive a tundra (or any other truck on the market), then drive the tacoma. I would have easily shelled out 30K, especially if it had leather, but give me a break, I expect a lot more from Toyota. I am probably going to buy a tundra DC, but I didn't want to buy something so long or with such bad gas mileage. I may hold off for the Frontier, but I hear it will not be available until Jan 05, too bad. I really encourage people to drive the tundra, then the Tacoma. Although a little more expensive, the difference is not that much with the recent incentives. There is really no comparison (too bad, the Tacoma is a perfect size and package in my eyes).
Dec 04, 2004 (8:52 am)
Wow. Considering the number of young guys who want a tacoma for its off-road ability, when Toyota decided to go unconventional with a plastic bed you'd think Toyota would have 4 wheeled the prototypes to the max to make sure this didn't happen. When I think "composite," I think crack. Low and behold.....crack! And for $30k no less. Very disappointing.
#606 of 7624 Re: drove one last night [superglide]
Dec 04, 2004 (2:54 pm)
When looking at the power between the Tacoma and the Frontier you can't just look at HP. All the HP in the world doesn't mean a thing if it isn't transfered to the rear wheels. That is why looking at the torque is a better way of determine the actual power. If you compare the torque on the 2 trucks the Frontier has 284 and the Tacoma has 283 so it is about equal. Toyota is doing a better job getting the power to the ground than Nissan! Plus the Taco will have a TRD supercharger, headers, exhaust and intake that you can add that should bump the power up to around 350hp and it will all be covered under the factory warantee!
#607 of 7624 Re: drove one last night [tacofan4life]
Dec 05, 2004 (12:40 pm)
Are the headers and supercharger available from Toyota now?