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#27 of 7580 Looking for a new truck by atlgaxt May 24, 2004 (2:59 pm)
I will be replacing my B4000 4X4 within the next year, would like a crew cab. Was not that excited about the X-runner - am not into the boy racer thing. Am not really into the 4 Runner with all the cladding also. That why I was surprised that the posted spy shots of the crew cab of few posts back look so good. Looks like the small truck segment is getting pretty interesting, right as fuel costs are sky rocketing, which will hopefully pull attention back from the big boys to the smaller trucks. I always figured most personal use truck owners really don't need that full sized iron.   Right now, I like the Tacoma more than the 2005 Frontier, which looks a little homely and the 2005 Dakota, which I think has gotten too big. The Ranger / Mazda are obsolete, and the Canyon / Colorado have that joke of a low torque 5 cylinder, as compared to the new 4.0 sixes in the Toyota and Nissan which will blow the GM twins into the weeds. The GM twins also have cheesy plastic interiors.   I also like the curtain airbags and stability control on the new Toyota. I am never buying another tall vehicle without these features. Two questions if anyone knows the answer:   1. Will Toyota offer a automatic or AWD mode on the 4wd? This is a great feature if you encounter changing road conditions, so you don't have to keep flipping back and forth. As an example - driving on a winding mountain road. You get in the sun, the road is bone dry. Round a bend and you are in snow and ice in the shade. Please note I do not want this at the expense of having a low range and an lsd.   2. Does anyone know how the back seat works? It seems the Nissan Titan is the only crew cab truck that gets it, with rear seats flipping up creating a relatively low and flat floor for dogs and stuff. From pictures I have seen the new Dakota and Nissan have seats that flip up, but the floors are not flat. Trucks where the seats flip down (Like the GM twins) create a load surface too high to easily put your dogs on, then the dogs will be drooling on your shoulder because they are sitting up so high. Flip up seats and a flat floor would clinch the deal for sure. Don't any truck designers actually have dogs? Do they just figure people put them in the bed?   Sorry for the long post, but I am pretty excited about the new Tacoma and look forward to learning more about it as time goes on. Replies to this message: demoncleaner (Jun 03, 2004 9:07 am)
#28 of 7580 Tacoma Drive by got1b May 25, 2004 (1:46 pm)
I agree and hope Toyota will offer an AWD mode with there 4wd. GM offers it in their higher level vehicles. To me it makes sense, then you have a system you can use all the time, not just when you're off roading.   I think the only way the Colorado/Canyon will remain competitive is if they significantly rebate the vehicles, keeping them 2-3,000 below the inports!
#29 of 7580 Re: alpha01 [spleck #10] by oldman2 May 29, 2004 (9:00 am)
Replying to: spleck (Mar 10, 2004 8:56 am) I am pleased with the info from these posts as I am very interested in a new Tacoma 4-door. I seem to be in the largest of minorities in that I do not wish for big, gas-guzzling engines or standard trannys. My hope is that they offer a very economical 4-cyl. w/auto for my needs. I've been torn between a Dakota and a Taco. I like everthing about the Taco more except the width. Now, thankfully, that is changing. I too have dogs...and a wife, so fold up seats with a flat floor board would be great. I don't care how long it takes to get from light to light. Putting around is my speed now-a-days and with a bad left hip, I do not want to shift. Anyways, thanks for the pics and info. When the MPG ratings come out, put 'em on here.
#30 of 7580 Re: Looking for a new truck [atlgaxt #27] by demoncleaner Jun 03, 2004 (9:07 am)
Replying to: atlgaxt (May 24, 2004 2:59 pm) I second your opinion atlgaxt. 1)Automode 4wd would be nice in a compact/midsize truck no doubt. Living in Lake-effect snow country, I'm tired of shifting in/out (along with slowing down necessary) all the time on variable roads. Soccer moms have it with thier urban on-roader SUV's. No reason why it cant be on pickups. and 2) the seats flipping up is def better. Folding down like the Colorado,I cant understand why. If heavy items are needed in the cab want them low to the floor so not blocking view out the back, easier loading and yes better center of gravity. Hope i didnt lose anyone on that last one...
#31 of 7580 2005 tacoma engines by chorton Jun 04, 2004 (12:54 pm)
std engine will be the 2.7L 4cyl. it is supposed to have about 25 more horses than the current production engine, my guess is they added VVT-I to it. The upgrade will be the 4.0L V6 currently used in the 4runner. I still HOPE they will offer the v8 in the d-cab models, but i don't think it will happen.....yet. Replies to this message: toyotasiennab (Jun 15, 2004 4:12 pm)
#32 of 7580 V8 would be sweet by atlgaxt Jun 05, 2004 (10:21 am)
but I think the V6 will be plenty powerful. My guess is that the Tacoma crew cab should weigh several hundred pounds less than a 4 Runner, so it should have ample power.
#33 of 7580 V8 not for me, I need the diesel by moparbad Jun 07, 2004 (1:21 pm)
I would prefer the diesel to be offered as I prefer power AND efficiency. The 1KZ-TE 3.0L turbo diesel offers more power than the gasoline 3.4L and is 20% more fuel efficient. Replies to this message: atlgaxt (Jun 07, 2004 2:48 pm)
#34 of 7580 Re: V8 not for me, I need the diesel [moparbad #33] by atlgaxt Jun 07, 2004 (2:48 pm)
Replying to: moparbad (Jun 07, 2004 1:21 pm) I'd love the diesel also, but most manufacturers are hesitant to bring the new product over until they are sure that they will be able to meet the new 2007 emissions regs. I know more diesels are starting to creep in from VW, Mercedes and the Jeep Liberty, but they all might be going away again in two years. Its tough to recoup your investment in two years.
#35 of 7580 Re: 2005 tacoma engines [chorton #31] by toyotasiennab Jun 15, 2004 (4:12 pm)
Replying to: chorton (Jun 04, 2004 12:54 pm) The liter is about right but the the engine is from a new family. The engine is a "t" engine. They are using the 4.0 along with this "t" engine for the 4cylinder.
#36 of 7580 Repost of Info by spleck Jun 23, 2004 (4:26 am)
Here's some info I've gathered elsewhere:   Extra Cab or Double Cab only (if Reg cab is available, it will probably only be for non Pre-Runner/4WD models, ie BASE) 2.7L 4 cyl (2WD only) or 4.0L V6 engines 4-speed and 5-speed electronic auto trannies (I assume 4spd = 4 cyl, 5-speed = 6 cyl) 5-speed (no info on which configs its available) and 6-speed (X-Runner only problaby) manual trannies. Truck moves to midsize from compact, possible loss of ground clearance (2 inches?). Gas mileage should be similar to current models (est 20 mpg for 4.0L 2WD on interstate - reference 4Runner) Replies to this message: tacomanewbe (Jun 23, 2004 1:12 pm)

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