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| I would assume the prerunner will be around for a long time. The success has been HUGE!!! I think it will be on a 4runner type frame. I can't wait to drive one...anyone else? | |
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I'm particularly curious about engines, and whether we'll get a manual transmission in the double cab V6. -It looks like the V6 is the same 4.0L from the 4Runner, but if the X-Runner is the premium truck, then its probably unlikely that we'll get a 4.7L V8 from the 4Runner too. -I think the old 3.4L is getting a little tired, we might see the 3.3L that's spreading across the line replace it. The 3.3L is more efficient, and as currently tuned, more powerful, but at higher RPM. The fact the 3.4L is the base Tundra engine though may mean it will also stay for the Tacoma. -I'm sure Toyota will keep a 4 cyl for the single/xtra cab base models, but with the bigger size I'm not sure the 2.4L can handle it, and the 2.7L is so inefficient. -Sales of the double cabs are so much better that we may see a limited lineup for the single and xtra cabs, rather than the other way around. Any thoughts? |
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Looks like the 4.0 is a given. I think some sort of V-8 power should be offered. Manual transmissions should be offered for the entire line up, not just some models, including V-8's if offered. Some of us just like to shift. Plus I like the control I feel I have in the winter with a stick. As for the double cab, please offer the 6 foot bed like Nissan does. I still use my truck as a truck and would like the double cab, but need the 6 foot bed. How about a diesel? I know they have them in other markets. Just my 2 cents.
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| If you go to the Detroit News site (detnews.com) and drill down in their 'Auto Insider' section, you'll find a photo of a black non-X-Runner '05 prototype. Most folks assume it's either a PreRunner or a 4X4. | |
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Toyota's giving out zero usable info on the '05 lineup (other than the premium X-Runner). Some of the issues still outstanding include: - Base model configuration (will Toyota follow Nissan and ditch the regular cab?) - Projected vehicle weight (a big clue to engines, etc.) - Engine range. Sure, the X-Runner gets the 4.0, but the current S-Runner has a larger - than - baseline (3.4 vs. 3.0) V6. A V8 option has been wishlisted for eons, but there's a lot of chatter (elsewhere) claiming Toyota rep's say 'no'. If they try for a 4-cylinder option, it's gonna have to be big (e.g., the current 2.7). - Transmissions. The X-Runner gets a 6-speed. But what about the other models? Remember, Toyota's been eliminating manuals for the last decade... After all these years, they _still_ haven't caved in and offered manuals on either the PreRunners or the Double Cabs. |
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Don't count on seeing the 3.3L V6 in any Toyota "real" truck applications, as it was designed for use with the many iterations of FWD/AWD Camry platform, not for the tougher, more demanding use of Toyota's RWD/4WD trucks. ~alpha |
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Prerunner models much like the 3.4 V6 was offered in the Xtra and doublecab models! I think it would be more than adequate for this truck, but a V8 would be awesome too!
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I'd still say its a toss up. I would never consider a 2.4 or 2.7L a REAL truck engine either. The big issue is whether they go RWD with the 3.3L engine. The Highlander and Sienna are both using it, and I think its a suitable upgrade for on-road/light duty use (esp. non Pre-Runner/4WD). My main contention is that the 3.4L is old. It's seeing minimal use in the Tundra, whose line is now dominated by the 4.7L V8. It's apparent that the 4.0L is coming to the Tacoma, and will probably dominate the line. The general trend now is to consolidate engines and platforms, so I don't see Toyota keeping a 2.4L, 2.7L, 3.4L, 4.0L, and a 4.7L in their truck lineups. Does anyone know if the Tacoma 2.4L is related to the Camry/RAV4/Highlander 2.4L?? If it is, then its most likely staying for the economy Tacoma. If Toyota puts a RWD tranny on the 3.3L, then I think it may replace both the 2.7L and the 3.4L. Toyota would rather you bought the 4.0L for REAL truck use. I'd also say there's only a 1% chance of seeing the 4.7L V8 in the Tacoma until there's a bigger engine available for the Tundra.
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The current baseline is the same 3.4L as in the S-Runner, so I think the primary features of the X-Runner over the baseline is the body styling, X-frame, and the 6-speed, not the 4.0L engine. I just want a 4.0L double cab 4WD with a 5-speed. And other than the X-runner body kit, I like the looks of the 2005 Tacoma. |
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Its not much of a toss up. The 2.4L and 2.7L long stroke 4s that you mention were intentionally designed as heavier duty/workhorse engines coupled with rear wheel drive. Neither revs very high or quickly, but both produce a decent amount of low end torque, with the 2.7L producing more torque than any other Toyota 4. Despite the fact that the 3.3L is used in heavier vehicles such as the Sienna, HL, and RX, it was designed for moderate duty use, and not with rear wheel drive, or 4WD. (The Sienna, HL, and RX use a front wheel drive biased AWD system). The 2.4L in the current Tacoma is not in the least related to the 2.4L in the Camry/HL/RAV4/tC. I agree with the fact that Toyota would be using too many engines if the Taco 2.4L, 2.7L, and the Taco/Tundra 3.4L continue on. My guess is that only one or perhaps NONE of these three will serve as the base in the new Tacoma. Maybe we'll see a toughened version of the Camry's 2.4L, but I doubt it. In terms of the Tundra, I can easily see Toyota dropping the 3.4L V6 completely, with or without a base replacement. VERY FEW Tundras sell with the basic V6 and auto combination. ~alpha |
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