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#11 of 7580 enolagaia by spleck Mar 10, 2004 (9:02 am)
The current baseline is the same 3.4L as in the S-Runner, so I think the primary features of the X-Runner over the baseline is the body styling, X-frame, and the 6-speed, not the 4.0L engine.   I just want a 4.0L double cab 4WD with a 5-speed. And other than the X-runner body kit, I like the looks of the 2005 Tacoma.
#12 of 7580 well by alpha01 Mar 10, 2004 (12:19 pm)
Its not much of a toss up. The 2.4L and 2.7L long stroke 4s that you mention were intentionally designed as heavier duty/workhorse engines coupled with rear wheel drive. Neither revs very high or quickly, but both produce a decent amount of low end torque, with the 2.7L producing more torque than any other Toyota 4.   Despite the fact that the 3.3L is used in heavier vehicles such as the Sienna, HL, and RX, it was designed for moderate duty use, and not with rear wheel drive, or 4WD. (The Sienna, HL, and RX use a front wheel drive biased AWD system).   The 2.4L in the current Tacoma is not in the least related to the 2.4L in the Camry/HL/RAV4/tC.   I agree with the fact that Toyota would be using too many engines if the Taco 2.4L, 2.7L, and the Taco/Tundra 3.4L continue on. My guess is that only one or perhaps NONE of these three will serve as the base in the new Tacoma. Maybe we'll see a toughened version of the Camry's 2.4L, but I doubt it. In terms of the Tundra, I can easily see Toyota dropping the 3.4L V6 completely, with or without a base replacement. VERY FEW Tundras sell with the basic V6 and auto combination.   ~alpha
#13 of 7580 Hybrids? by buffalonickel Mar 30, 2004 (7:02 pm)
I have been looking for info on the hybrids in the pickup trucks. I know the large block V8 (man is that an awesome sight or what?) that is yet unavailable may have a "stepdown" engine that powers up with the V8 and economizes to the gas mileage of a 6 cylinder on the highway. I understand that will be introduced in the second generation production of that truck.   But I have yet to see anything on the Tacomas. Seems to me the bread and butter truck from Toyota was the Hilux and it may be a good one to introduce a hybrid that is maybe a six cylinder with the economy of the 4. Maybe that is in the works?   I also know that gasoline will rise in cost to over $2 a gallon this summer. It is already higher than $ 2 a gallon in California from what I understand. Gets expensive for long-distance commuters! Time for the hybrids to show up in the car shows!   B
#14 of 7580 Engines by got1b Apr 01, 2004 (7:41 am)
Maybe this has already been stated but I figured the standard engine in the new Tacoma will be the 4.0L V6 currently in the 4Runner. I test drove a 4Runner yesterday just to see what it was like. It was a nice ride. Assuming the new Tacoma will be lighter then the 4 Runner, she should really cruise. I'd think that Toyota wioll offer a 4 cylinder for the economy market and the super charger for the HP market. Its hard to say whether we'll see the IForce V8 offered in the Tacoma like it is in the 4 Runner (which if you look at the dash, the vehicles are highly similar). With Toyota putting out a larger engine for the Titan, maybe we'll see the IForce in the Tacoma. This will help it better compete against the New Dakota and set it apart from the New Frontier whose engine has similar stats to the 4.0L.   The question is, what would be the gain? The 4.0L V6 gets more horsepower but less torque then the IForce. I think the only real gain would be for towing. But is the Tacoma made to tow more than 5,500 lbs? At the same time you'll loose fuel economy. Regardless, it'll be a great fall as these new trucks compete against one another. I just hope the New Tacoma retains all of its off road capability. I really hope the Crew Cab has the same sliding rear window as the Tundra.
#15 of 7580 Towing by moparbad Apr 01, 2004 (12:29 pm)
As a light truck the Tacoma is maxxed out for towing at 5,000 lbs no matter what engine they put in it. The trailer is too heavy and pushing the truck around when you reach 5,000 lbs and greater. Just my opinion. Pulling a trailer with a car with total weight of about 4,500 lbs combined with a 2003 Tacoma Xcab 4WD V6 was fine as far as power, however, the pucker factor was fully engaged during braking. A compact truck is good for it's intended use, towing heavy loads is better left to full size 1/2, 3/4 or whichever truck is appropriate for the need. I laughed for a long time at people complaining about the tow ratings on the new Colorado and Canyon.
#16 of 7580 Moparbad by got1b Apr 01, 2004 (2:25 pm)
Thats what I thought. It doesn't make any sense to put a V8 in. The new Tacoma will be larger, so it should be able to tow a little more, maybe the 5500-6,000 area.
#17 of 7580 Moparbad by got1b Apr 01, 2004 (2:27 pm)
Thats what I thought. It doesn't make any sense to put a V8 in. The new Tacoma will be larger, so it should be able to tow a little more, maybe the 5500-6,000 area. As for the GM twins, I think they are grossly low. My Sienna can tow about as much as them. Now I realize these trucks won't be pulling Campers or anything, but they should be able to pull toys like quads, ski boats and such.
#18 of 7580 Size, Motor, Tow, and Passengers by buffalonickel Apr 01, 2004 (6:35 pm)
I accede with the idea that the Tacoma's integrity to tow heavier weights is pushing the limits at 3,500 lbs. I would further assert that the reason these trucks are equipped with larger bodies and more powerful engines isn't for towing. Face it: you don't see many boats behind these trucks. They are used for transporting the family. And the occasional trip to the suburban nursery for a bucket of mulch. So the size difference is in the cab. They metamorphosed from a regular cab to an extended to a quad cab. And now the regular cab is on the endangered species list because everyone is trading up.   And to attest to the 04 Tacoma: the extended-cab was one of two vehicles that lifted their wheels off the ground during the government's new "road-edge recovery test." The new wider stance and heavier profile '05 Tacoma should "set" more firmly on the road. I had wondered if that new ABS braking feature--that is supposed initiate on sharp turns to help that 04 Tacoma--contributed to the tip over?   And I wondered what the devil these test drivers did to cause it to go over. I saw a photo of the truck tipped up with the passenger side wheels lifted to 16" off the ground. The outriggers on the drivers side were in full contact with the pavement. And they didn't have that problem in previous tests. My wife ran our 94 Hilux off the edge of the road and descended down a steep embankment in the snow. She must have been all over that steering wheel by the tracks she made in the snow. The Hilux did not turn over and pulling it up that 8' embankment onto the highway simply took facing the road perpendicular, locking the hubs, putting the transfer case into 4-wheel and flying up the hill. That 4-popper responded beautifully and I was back on the road and driving home in a jiffy.   B
#19 of 7580 New Info by spleck Apr 30, 2004 (7:00 am)
Any new info on the 2005 Tacoma yet? Surely there must be some information leaking, or an announcement date.
#20 of 7580 New Spy-shots of 2005 Tacoma Double-Cab by hkings Apr 30, 2004 (7:36 am)
A couple new spy-shots of the 2005 Tacoma Double-Cab leaked out a few days ago on the net.   Here is the web address:   http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7069&sid=17- 8&n=158   Enjoy!

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