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Porsche Panamera, Sedan
#42 of 91 Intra-German Competition
Mar 21, 2005 (11:35 pm)
Its too bad BMW and Mercedes don't have a true sports car on the level of the 911 because Porsche it appears is heading right for the heart of their business - sedans. CLS55, M5, RS6 lookout!
I'm really curious to know what that Mclaren lineup of Mercedes sports cars would have looked liked. Oh well.
Whats next for Porsche a crossover to tackle the Mercedes R-Class?
Mar 29, 2005 (2:35 pm)
I can't believe Porsche released an SUV before releasing a sedan. Anyway, this sedan was worth the wait. This sedan is the best looking model in the entire Porsche lineup. It's got sleek looks, and the performance to back it up. Watch out Mercedes CLS! Has pricing and performance been announced?
#44 of 91 Re: Sweet Car [lexusrocks]
Mar 29, 2005 (8:06 pm)
We're seeing photochops. Even if Porsche shows the concept this fall at Frankfurt, expect it to be different and then to undergo finer development with revisions. It's early in the game and I would be surprised to see it done before MY 2009.
#45 of 91 The IAA
Mar 29, 2005 (10:40 pm)
This year's Frankfurt "motor show" is shaping up to be the biggest in recent memory. I mean a new S-Class, a totally new model in concept form from Porsche. The last time Porsche did this, the Carrera GT was born, though at Paris in 2000. I gather we'll see the 3-Series Coupe and the Audi LeMans in production form? Should be a hell of a show.
I doubt if the Porsche concept will look anything like that awful Carrera GT/Lexus GS looking thing floating around the net.
Apr 02, 2005 (1:36 pm)
the idea of a 4 seater, 4 door Porsche sedan....
the CLS from mercedes is good looking...but hope the P will be better...
I imagine a sedan with the V8 twin turbo will weigh about 4400 lbs....and cost around $85,000......since it would have less hardware than the cayenne...and the developemnt cost of the V8 had already been spread out.
Did Porsche anounce that they wouold build this sedan ? Last months Motor Trend said that Prosche will decide if they will build it end of this year....
Apr 05, 2005 (5:09 pm)
Large luxury sedans are a sticky wicket for automakers, if only because there are so many ways to approach them. You could make a big cushion like the LS430 or an ugly, albeit athletic 745. I really think that if Porsche can make this car reminiscient of the 911, then they'll be sold out fast. I don't really like the CLS, artially because it sounds like Cialis.
"So what do you drive?"
"A CLS 500"
"Is that a NASCAR race?"
Anyway, the Panamera sounds better rounded than the CLS, and in terms of performance, how much of a chance does a Mercedes stand against a Porsche?
Apr 06, 2005 (3:54 am)
Two different design philosophies. As we know, MB is luxury plus point-and-shoot street torque. Porsche is a blend of road and track handling and speed. Will be interesting to see how Porsche sticks to its formula and just how much luxury will go into it. However it had better not be overpriced or it's going nowhere.
It seems Porsche's financial strategies have worked in the last 10 years so I would expect this car to be well-calculated and targeted, not just an ego trip. If they overdo any aspect it could lose a lot of sales. The right blend of performance, luxury, size, price could really pickpocket the luxury makers—and what a coup that would be since they are not about luxury.
They have to nail this from several angles if they want it to ring up the cash register IMO. Very hard to predict, not only from our side but especially theirs I would imagine. Would be nice to be a fly on the wall of their think tank to see what is transpiring with this car.
I'm not getting my hopes up too much. In the end it may be too much for them to handle unless Toyota decides to be generous with their hybrid technology. You heard that right. It won't be long before hybrid will have come a long way from Prius.
Apr 09, 2005 (6:12 pm)
Porsche is more about the driving than even BMW. I hope that they don't compromise this just because it's a big car.
#50 of 91 Well....
Apr 10, 2005 (3:38 pm)
I look at the top 3 Germans like this:
Mercedes-Benz: ultimate power, luxury, comfort, safety, technology combined with best in class high-speed stability (especially AMGs) and timeless styling. Simply put the best darn luxury road car going today.
BMW: ultimate handling, control, cutting edge design (for better or worse), a naturally aspirated engine and (engines period) expert, truly the ultimate driving machine. The ultimate in luxury cars if you really enjoy hard driving and even the occasional track experience. The biggest difference between MB and BMW for decades and probably always will be.
Porsche: the scientific sports car. Precise, measured, calculating excellence, timeless design, dual-purpose street to track with no sweat. There really is no substitute.
Apr 10, 2005 (5:25 pm)
They're nice driver's cars, but there's something about Porsche that sets them in a higher tier than BMW IMO. Probably because Porsche is most meticulous making sure that everything performancewise is great. BMW has compromised (and forfeited, IMO) their spot as the world's best driving car because:
iDrive My uncle got a 2004 760i with iDrive. He collects cars (lucky old man) He called me over so I could figure it out with him. I left with a headache. Now I have an excuse to ask to drive his 911, though
Ugly styling on upper end models I know that styling is subjective, but the 7 Series just looks bad to me.
I dunno about Mercedes. I haven't driven one in years.