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Lease Termination Fees and other costs

1039 messages,  Last post on Dec 03, 2009 at 10:15 AM

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Re: early termination mileage charge [qbrozen] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 16, 2008 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Sep 16, 2008 2:30 pm)

I consider selling it privately or trading it in "buying it" because that is essentially what you are doing
 
If you trade it in, you never take title or pay sales tax... I don't consider that the same thing, at all... Plus, depending on the bank, you can just sell it straight out to a car dealer..
 
Generally, you'll come out ahead that way.... rather than turning the car back in.. As in all things, it depends...
 
Early termination of a lease can result in many unexpected charges... Some banks are better than others... I've heard Chrysler Finance is one of the worst. Rather than hundreds or thousands in extra charges, I'd let the car sit in my driveway and make the monthly payments..
 
After all, who doesn't need and extra car? Or, three?
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Re: early termination mileage charge [kyfdx] by qbrozen
Sep 17, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Sep 16, 2008 6:54 pm)

I still consider it the same. It may not be passing through you legally, but you had the car in your possession, the $$ amounts show up on the new car paperwork, etc. Sure, you get a tax break when trading it, but that's the same whether you leased or financed.
 
Don't know what you heard about Chrysler, but we had absolutely no problems with them. Turned in our Pacifica 3-4 months early. Paid what was on the contract (remaining payments and disposal fee) and that was it.
 
corvette - I think it varies by state, but neither Honda nor Chrysler gave me any interest credit. I had to pay all remaining FULL payments, including tax and interest.
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Re: early termination mileage charge [qbrozen] by saablcp
Sep 17, 2008 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Sep 16, 2008 2:30 pm)

"I had to turn my Accord in early because it was already worth FAR below its residual and still had 9 months to go"....????? I don't understand ....were you in a Balloon note of some type where you were responsible for any difference between projected residual vs.real market value? I know of no lessors(including A.H.F.C.)that holds the lessee responsible for a car that depreciated more than their projections. Worth less because you exceeded your allowed mileage,you pay.Worth less because you return it with worn out brakes,bald tires and a cracked windshield,you pay. Worth less because they made an improper market projection....no,thats why they buy residual value insurance. I don't understand your point.
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Re: early termination mileage charge [saablcp] by qbrozen
Sep 17, 2008 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: saablcp (Sep 17, 2008 9:54 am)

You misunderstand. If you follow the conversation up to that point, KYFDX commented that it is usually cheaper to trade it in than to pay the remaining payments. In the case of my Accord, it was much cheaper to pay the remaining payments than trade it in because its trade-in value was already far less than what even the projected residual 9 months from now was going to be.
 
The sentence you've picked, by itself, can be confusing. I did not HAVE to turn it in for the reason stated. But I did WANT to get out of it and turning it in early was the cheaper option.
 
It was the same with our Pacifica. And, as a matter of fact, we had hit the mileage limit on our Pacifica (45k) 4 months before lease end. We turned it in, sent Chrysler a check for the remaining 4 payments and that was it. No projected excess mileage charges or early termination fees.
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by saablcp
Sep 17, 2008 (11:26 am)
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No I didn't misunderstand you as much as I don't understand the rationale of terminating your lease early and taking a needless hit on trade inequity or by paying off the balance of the payments and not having the use of the car.The only situation where you are "upside down''on a lease is if you choose to terminate it early.So the queston becomes "why?"....are you already over mileage and driving what I try to jokingly refer to my customers as a "taxicab"the meter is running at anywhere from 15 to 20 cents a mile /per mile driven ? Has the car become grossly inappropriate for your needs,such as you just had twin babies and you ain't even going to attempt to get two car seats in the back of your Saab convertible? I don't get it ! Unless you have an overwhelming need to end the lease early,,just ride it out!The only time that the cars value in the market being below your lease residual matters is if you want to break the lease early.What was your need or reasons for doing this apparently on both a Chrysler and a Honda lease?
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Re: [saablcp] by qbrozen
Sep 17, 2008 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: saablcp (Sep 17, 2008 11:26 am)

Well, frankly, my reasons have nothing to do with what is being discussed here, meaning the "lease termination fees and other costs." And I know what a stickler you are for wanting to stay on topic.
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Re: [qbrozen] by saablcp
Sep 20, 2008 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Sep 17, 2008 1:03 pm)

WHOOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The sound of the point I was making going completely over your head!
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Re: [saablcp] by qbrozen
Sep 22, 2008 (6:47 am)
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Replying to: saablcp (Sep 20, 2008 8:56 am)

Didn't your mamma ever tell you to respect your elders?
Or how to express yourself in a clear and concise manner?
If you'd like to try again, I am listening. I am always willing to help someone who at least attempts to help him or herself.
 
If your "point" was to express that terminating a lease early when you are under miles is financially imprudent, its not much of a point at all.
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Re: [qbrozen] by saablcp
Sep 22, 2008 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Sep 22, 2008 6:47 am)

First off I have no idea what age you are,nor do you have any idea of my age, so please ..."can" the respect your elders angle! After re-reading my posts I find nothing disrespectful about them.Sorry if I offended you by expressing sarcastically that you did not see the point I was making.Perhaps the respect that is not being shown is toward the person who has been doing Auto leasing professionally for 24 years. End of discussion,please!
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Re: [saablcp] by tidester HOST
Sep 22, 2008 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: saablcp (Sep 22, 2008 9:51 am)

End of discussion,please!
 
Hear, hear!
 
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper

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