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Lease Termination Fees and other costs

1038 messages,  Last post on Nov 19, 2009 at 9:34 AM

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swaplease by mehrishis
Sep 06, 2008 (5:00 pm)
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Does swap lease really work? They do charge higher ammount for advertisement. Is it worth the money to advertise? What are the stats for successful swaplease thought this route?
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Re: Exhorbitant lease termination charges - NEED HELP [buyusmade] by qbrozen
Sep 08, 2008 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: buyusmade (Sep 06, 2008 4:11 pm)

Tough to know without knowing what all was discussed when you leased your new vehicle. Did you not talk about how your old lease was being handled? Have you contacted the dealer to discuss further with them?
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Re: Exhorbitant lease termination charges - NEED HELP [buyusmade] by volvomax
Sep 08, 2008 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: buyusmade (Sep 06, 2008 4:11 pm)

It would help if we knew what the charges were for.
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Just for information look at leasing from Credit Unions by dnmann
Sep 10, 2008 (6:36 am)
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Before leasing, check out any credit unions you belong to.
 
When I leased a 2006 Avalon, the rate was very competitive, all the paperwork was by fax and mail, when my company bought it out early the deal was clean with no additonal fees and I saved money on sales taxes. The credit union officer told me that as a non-profit, they were exempt from the state sales tax and I saved the 3% VA sales tax on the purchase/lease.
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early termination mileage charge by jmp7882
Sep 15, 2008 (7:49 am)
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I have a extended lease that was terminated 8 months early with 77,500 miles. The total mileage limitation was 82,500, but the lessor charged an excess mileage fee of $780. Even though the limition was not exceeded, there still was an excess mileage charge. It appears the mileage was pro rated resulting in a excess mileage fee on termination. Is it typical for lessors to charge for excess mileage even though the excess mileage limitation has not been exceeded on early termination by pro rating the actual mileage?
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Re: early termination mileage charge [jmp7882] by qbrozen
Sep 15, 2008 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: jmp7882 (Sep 15, 2008 7:49 am)

Somebody else experienced this not too long ago.
Here is their post.
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Re: early termination mileage charge [jmp7882] by tidester HOST
Sep 15, 2008 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: jmp7882 (Sep 15, 2008 7:49 am)

I think it's reasonable for them to prorate the mileage. Say you had a 5 year lease with a 12,000 mile per year limit. You would be allowed up to 60,000 miles over the term of the lease. If you were to turn in the vehicle 4 years into the lease with 59,999 miles on it you're still under the mileage cap but you've put a lot more wear and tear on the vehicle. The difference between 48,000 and 59,999 miles is significant for a 4 year old vehicle.
 
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Re: early termination mileage charge [tidester] by jmp7882
Sep 15, 2008 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Sep 15, 2008 8:39 am)

But isn't that value captured by the separate early termination charge calculated by the formula based upon the Realized Value Of the Car as opposed to the excess mileage limitation? (i.e. if you return a car with 59,999 miles in year four won't its Realized Value be substantially lowever than if it had 48,000)
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Re: early termination mileage charge [jmp7882] by tidester HOST
Sep 15, 2008 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: jmp7882 (Sep 15, 2008 8:52 am)

That's a good question - meaning I don't know the answer!
 
One would think that the fair market value at lease termination would include the vehicle's actual mileage though it's possible the lessor has separated the two. Your contract should spell out the details.
 
Perhaps someone with experience would care to jump in here?
 
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Re: early termination mileage charge [tidester] by qbrozen
Sep 15, 2008 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Sep 15, 2008 8:39 am)

I don't think its reasonable at all if they still charge you all remaining payments.
Essentially, you are doing THEM a favor.
 
Option A is you drive 60k miles in 5 years, making all payments over 5 years, and turn the car in. They have a 5-year-old, 60k-mile car.
Option B is you drive 60k miles in 4 years, making all 5 years of payments, and turn the car in. They have a 4-year-old, 60k-mile car.
 
Which one do you think is worth more? Option B, of course.

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