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#81 of 100
OK by pf_flyer HOST
Sep 29, 2005 (4:20 am)
Enough of the personal stuff. Resist the urge to talk about each other and stick to the topics please.
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Re: OK [pf_flyer] by kwc205
Nov 02, 2005 (5:22 am)

Replying to: pf_flyer (Sep 29, 2005 4:20 am)

I would love to buy a GMC anything but the hybrid would be better. Saving gas is always a good thing. Unfoprtunately, all the reserach I have done suggests that the new hybrid does not have any better mpg than my 2001 Sierra. The complexity of the system doesn't seem to warrent a change nor the 17 mpg city. That is not a savings to me.
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Re: Long Term Update from MT [dewey] by jray4
Nov 03, 2005 (6:44 am)

Replying to: dewey (Aug 07, 2005 8:31 am)

GM is getting bad publicity by people who probably never owned a GM vehicle. I' ve owned nothing but GM vehicles for the last 30 years. I agree during the past years styling was not the greatest but their engineering was always good. I usually trade cars about every 3 years, but my wife Buick is 10 years old with about 100,000 miles on it and it still has the original battery and brake linings. The only thing that has been replaced are tires oil, filters and belts. GM cars starts at the touch of the key and you can not find cars that starts better than a GM vehicle. I also own a Vette and you can not find another car of it's type and engineering for the money.
What I driving now is Pontiac Vibe and if you don't know, this car is the same as a Toyota Matrix with a little different sheet metal styling. I bought this car out of curiosity to see what is all this hype about the Toyota's. Well, now I know and I can wait to get rid of it. I've had brake problems, wheel bearings, noisy transmission and basically a very noisy car. The horn on a motorcyle sound louder and is bigger than this car. So I've change the horn and now is the time to change this lousy car and buy good GM car like maybe Chevy Cobalt that rides like a big car and a Pontiac Solstice,
 
Joe
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Re: Long Term Update from MT [jray4] by falconone
Nov 03, 2005 (8:03 am)

Replying to: jray4 (Nov 03, 2005 6:44 am)

Cobalt was rated low by CR. GM is in the shape they're in now because their quality has been poor in recent years. That's changed. Good luck!!
#85 of 100
Re: OK [kwc205] by gagrice
Nov 03, 2005 (9:16 am)

Replying to: kwc205 (Nov 02, 2005 5:22 am)

I have the Sierra hybrid. The only reason for you to get the new hybrid version is if you want the 110 volt 20 amp capability. I like mine so far. It is very quiet starting. The auto stop works great at the stop lights. The climate control keeps you cool even in 100 plus weather. I doubt you will see much difference in mileage. Another plus is no smog tests in CA.
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GM Hybrid PU for all 50 states by gagrice
Nov 04, 2005 (10:58 pm)
Will they get a tax credit? 18 MPG city may be wishful thinking. Has to be a lighter foot than mine. 21 MPG highway should be doable.
 
General Motors says the hybrid system gives the trucks the best city mileage ratings of any full-size pickups.
 
EPA ratings show the trucks get 18 mpg in the city and 21 on the highway for two-wheel-drive models. Four-wheel-drive models get 17 city and 19 highway ratings.

 
http://www.mlive.com/business/fljournal/index.ssf?/base/business-1/113111950572770.xml&col- l=5
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Re: GM Hybrid PU for all 50 states [gagrice] by falconone
Nov 05, 2005 (5:23 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Nov 04, 2005 10:58 pm)

Great truck if you live in Florida. You have to admit, it's nice to have a rolling generator. GM should really not slap a hybrid sticker on it. Let's face it, it's not a hybrid. It's a pickup truck with a built in generator. NOT a bad thing. I'd buy it IF I needed a PU.
#88 of 100
Re: GM Hybrid PU for all 50 states [falconone] by gagrice
Nov 05, 2005 (9:25 am)

Replying to: falconone (Nov 05, 2005 5:23 am)

If you drive the Sierra hybrid 15k miles per year you will save 167 gallons over a conventional Sierra. If you compare that to a Prius over a Camry the savings is only 128 gallons per year.
 
PS
With auto stop it is close in concept to the Honda hybrids. NO smog check you gotta love it.
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Re: GM Hybrid PU for all 50 states [gagrice] by falconone
Nov 05, 2005 (6:24 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2005 9:25 am)

On the East coast we have no such checks. I am registered in PA. Lucky me!! Gotta love it!!
#90 of 100
GMC Hybrid update by gagrice
Jan 21, 2006 (7:16 am)
The GMC is running great. Drove 380 miles to Barstow and back last Thursday. First time on the highway with the Hybrid. I had just convinced the dealer to exchange the tires on the truck. It had Goodyear Wrangler ST's, possibly the worst tire ever made. In the first rain they were so bad I could not take off without spinning them. Now I have Firestone Destination LE's. Somewhat taller and wider. The GYs were 235/75/16, the Firestone's are 265/70/16. Much more solid driving and riding experience. I don't know if they affected my odometer or speedometer.
 
Back to our trip. I started out trying to drive 65 MPH, the speed limit on Interstate 15 in San Diego. The computer indicated right at 20 MPG. It was obvious I was holding up traffic even in the right hand lane so I gave up and went with the 75 MPH flow. This was at 9AM and the traffic was still very heavy headed North. South bound was stop n Go. Other than slow downs at the main freeway exits we maintained the 70-75 MPH for the 185 mile drive to Barstow. Driving home was equally heavy but seemed to move smoother with less slow downs. The North bound lanes were stop n Go for the last 75 miles into the San Diego area. I could not commute in that for any amount of money.
 
The truck is very quiet and the XM classical stations provided uninterrupted music the whole trip. The trip computer gave us an 18.2 MPG for the entire tank. I had filled up before we left and did so on our return. Calculated mileage was 18.87 MPG. The truck now has about 1250 miles on it.
 
I got a real surprise in the mail from Farmer's Insurance. Because it is a Hybrid they lowered my premium from $545 to $399. That paid for all my gas for the first 6 months.
 
Conclusion:
I like driving the truck. I don't see a mileage improvement, maybe after it is broken in. I would still rather have a 1/2 ton PU with a 5 cylinder diesel like the one in our Mercedes RV. That is an 8000 lb vehicle that gets 22-26 MPG. Gasoline propulsion is just a highly refined losing proposition IMO.

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