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#69 of 100 Re: Why all the hate towards GM? [dassaz] by cablack Sep 27, 2005 (11:06 am)
Replying to: dassaz (Sep 27, 2005 9:02 am) I agree. I'm a pleased-as-punch HCH owner and I almost always am on the side of 'hybrid' in these discussions. But I applaud GM for making the hybrid they have. And I applaud their investments in other technologies. They may be late, but IMO they are moving in a positive direction. So stop the bashing. Doing so only trivializes your own point of view, and sways people in the wrong direction. And I love reading Gary's posts, even though I often disagree with him. He's one of the best things going on this forum. Replies to this message: gagrice (Sep 27, 2005 12:52 pm) john1701a (Sep 27, 2005 7:16 pm) gagrice (Sep 27, 2005 8:43 pm) john1701a (Sep 28, 2005 7:05 am) and 1 more... falconone (Sep 28, 2005 2:50 am)
#70 of 100 Re: Why all the hate towards GM? [cablack] by gagrice Sep 27, 2005 (12:52 pm)
Replying to: cablack (Sep 27, 2005 11:06 am) And I love reading Gary's posts You are too kind. I like to debate what ever the subject. My friends don't always agree with me either. We still get along great. As for my Sierra hybrid. We went shopping at Home Depot and Lowe's this morning. I told my wife I would not miss driving the Passat too much when we sell it. I would rather pay a few bucks more for fuel and be in a PU truck. I just cannot get into driving a car. Too low to see what is going on ahead of me. Mileage holding a 15 MPG with all short 3 mile trips on the hybrid. Gas dropped another 4 cents today, $2.799.
#71 of 100 Re: Why all the hate towards GM? [cablack] by john1701a Sep 27, 2005 (7:16 pm)
Replying to: cablack (Sep 27, 2005 11:06 am) > stop the bashing It's the misrepresentation that upsets people. Hybrid means there is some type of blending. Since no electric propulsion whatsoever is provided, no blending has occurred. It's just an improvement to the existing system, increasing response time and extending fuel-cut to non-moving conditions. The engine provides 100% of the thrust. GM should have called this improvement something else, rather than "hybrid". JOHN Replies to this message: gagrice (Sep 27, 2005 8:43 pm) john1701a (Sep 28, 2005 7:05 am) stevedebi (Sep 28, 2005 11:06 am) falconone (Sep 28, 2005 2:50 am)
#72 of 100 Re: Why all the hate towards GM? [john1701a] by gagrice Sep 27, 2005 (8:43 pm)
Replying to: john1701a (Sep 27, 2005 7:16 pm) I think you have missed some of the purpose of the GMC Hybrid. It also uses regenerative braking to charge the batteries. The hybrid system is quite useful on construction jobs with four 120 volt AC 20 amp circuits available. The climate control is electric saving fuel while running on battery power. It also saves gas while stopped in traffic. And the biggest thing it is the ONLY HYBRID PU truck on the market. Nothing Toyota builds would satisfy my vehicular needs. Toyota is still years behind GM in the truck building business. That is the bottom line. Definition of Hybrid Something of mixed origin or composition. Something, such as a computer or power plant, having two kinds of components that produce the same or similar results. I don't see in the definition of hybrid where the Prius is anymore qualified as a hybrid than the Honda or GM hybrids. It is merely the combining of different components to give an end result. The desired end result is the saving of a bit of fuel. In the case of the GMC Hybrid I did not have to give up Handling, comfort & towing ability. Replies to this message: john1701a (Sep 28, 2005 7:05 am) stevedebi (Sep 28, 2005 11:06 am)
#73 of 100 Re: Why all the hate towards GM? [john1701a] by falconone Sep 28, 2005 (2:50 am)
Replying to: john1701a (Sep 27, 2005 7:16 pm) GM merely used the term to try and entice interest. Apparently it didn't work too well as they sold very little. The mileage gains are nil. Essentially you're just paying for a generator.
#75 of 100 Re: Why all the hate towards GM? [gagrice] by john1701a Sep 28, 2005 (7:05 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Sep 27, 2005 8:43 pm) > Something of mixed origin or composition. There is no mixing. Where's the component that doesn't already exist? The battery is bigger than usual and the starter is bigger than usual. It's an improvement to original parts, nothing new. JOHN Replies to this message: stevedebi (Sep 28, 2005 11:06 am)
#76 of 100 Re: Why all the hate towards GM? [john1701a] by stevedebi Sep 28, 2005 (11:06 am)
Replying to: john1701a (Sep 28, 2005 7:05 am) "Where's the component that doesn't already exist? The battery is bigger than usual and the starter is bigger than usual. " Well, there is the equipment added to enable the regenerative braking to charge the batteries, plus the electric A/C (gary, correct me if I'm wrong on this one), and of course the components to run those electric 110V outlets. Those don't exist on a stock GMC...