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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 07, 2005 7:04 am)
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Replying to: falconone (Aug 07, 2005 12:00 pm) Interesting point. The 2004 Chevy 1500 4X4 Hybrid is rated at a combined 18 MPG. That means MT over the long term is getting 18% below the EPA rating. Just to keep things in perspective that same group of writers that awarded the Prius "Car of the Year" in 2004 are not doing too well with their long term Prius mileage. They are averaging 24% less than EPA rating. Cost of maintenance is higher by far than the Chevy 4X4 hybrid. Prius service $65 every 5k miles. Must be some expensive oil. I hope you will be as happy with your Prius as I am with my GMC hybrid. Of course CR will glorify Toyota. You don't bite the hand that feeds you...
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 07, 2005 1:28 pm) Lest you think Toyota is in bed with CR, you better have proof to substantiate your claim. But that's coming from someone who claims Japan is a 3rd world country. No one on the hybrid boards understands you agenda. The fact that you spend more time on the PC than with your family speaks volumes. |
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They always tend to get less than the average person. I suppose their editors have lead feet. They were not too keen on the auto stop feature either. It probably needs some refining. I don't even see it advertised either. I guess it was another GM flop. Oh well.
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Replying to: sinepman (Aug 08, 2005 5:12 am) The auto-stop does take getting used to. It is very nice to sit at a stop light in total silence except for the AC fan. When you let off the brake the engine starts so quietly that you do not hear it if the radio is playing. You have to look at the tach to tell if it is running. I have less than 300 miles on mine so I cannot give any mileage details. The total indicated by the computer is 17.2 MPG. That is on very short trips to the store.
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 08, 2005 7:32 am)
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Replying to: molokai (Aug 08, 2005 8:09 am)
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Replying to: sinepman (Aug 08, 2005 8:26 am) |
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Good for Toyota for making a car that people like. But why does it become a club to hate GM? Obviously, GM has missed the hybrid boat. It was more than the fad that they thought it was. But GM is still doing quite a bit for the auto world. They are working on Hydrogen technology and though it is at least 10 years away, think of the potential. A car whose only emission is water. I hope that GM will partner with Toyota, Honda, D-C, and Ford, and end this stupid debate on fuel economy. Some people like trucks and don't mind paying more the gas. Some people like a greener car that may cost a little more, but they like the gas mileage and can sleep with themselves at night. Bottom line, drive what you want, it's your choice. Be glad that we have more to decide on than just color.
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Replying to: dassaz (Sep 27, 2005 9:02 am) But I applaud GM for making the hybrid they have. And I applaud their investments in other technologies. They may be late, but IMO they are moving in a positive direction. So stop the bashing. Doing so only trivializes your own point of view, and sways people in the wrong direction. And I love reading Gary's posts, even though I often disagree with him. He's one of the best things going on this forum.
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