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#51 of 100 Re: Ready to give my hybrid the mileage test [gagrice]
Jul 25, 2005 (2:17 pm)
I have to say - that is one nice truck!
#52 of 100 Long Term Update from MT
Aug 06, 2005 (5:52 pm)
Motor Trend got an abysmal 14.6 avg on their long term Silverado. Some hybrid!! LOL
#53 of 100 Re: Long Term Update from MT [falconone]
Aug 06, 2005 (6:20 pm)
I was looking at the long term test at MT. That is not too bad for 4X4 crew cab. The two wheel drive Nissan Titan is averaging less MPG and the maintenance is almost triple the Chevy. It looks like the Japanese dealers charge a lot for an oil change, $83 for the first and $155 for the second.
#54 of 100 Re: Long Term Update from MT [gagrice]
Aug 06, 2005 (8:11 pm)
Just paid 19.95 for an oil change for my father's Corolla at Toyota. All dealers charge different prices. Overall you'll have higher maint costs for the Chevy as they're not as reliable.
#55 of 100 Re: Long Term Update from MT [falconone]
Aug 06, 2005 (11:05 pm)
Overall you'll have higher maint costs for the Chevy as they're not as reliable.
That is pure bunk. Media hype has brain washed you to believe that kind of crap. I thought the $41 was high for the Chevy. I have never paid over $30 for service at Bob Stall Chevrolet in La Mesa CA. Nissan charged MT $83 for the 7500 mile service and $155 for the 15k mile service. Not my figures they are from the source you wanted to use as reference.
Over the 7 years that I owned my last Chevy the Suburban, all I ever did was oil, filters and lube, plus one serpentine belt for $26. Two of the 3 Chevy trucks prior to that gave me NO trouble. I drove both of them back to Alaska and after 2 years sold them for nearly what I paid for them new. I was lucky to get rid of the 1994 Toyota PU truck. I did find a sucker and sold him the headaches. Unless they have improved 100% from 1994 they still build tin junk. It is easy to sell a used Toyota. Proves the power of media hype. The TCO of my Toyota PU truck was thousands more than the Chevy Suburban. The only car that cost me more than that Toyota PU was a Fiat Spyder. Another car my son had to have. So the Toyota was ever so slightly better than a FIAT.
I almost forgot. My overall mileage on the GMC hybrid is still at 17 MPG. I have less than 300 miles on it. Mostly trips shorter than 3 miles. Full AC as it is Hot here this week.
#56 of 100 Re: Long Term Update from MT [gagrice]
Aug 07, 2005 (5:31 am)
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're just one in a million. Statistically you'll pay more in maintenance for the Chevy. Just look at CR and peruse the thousands of websites that support what I said. You just got lucky. That is why GM is in the shape it is now. They won't accept the blame that they produce crap so they blame it on heath costs. THAT IS BUNK.
#57 of 100 Re: Long Term Update from MT [falconone]
Aug 07, 2005 (8:04 am)
I guess you can believe what you want. Again it proves the masses are being treated like mushrooms. If I had bought one Toyota that was reliable it may give your opinion a point of credence. GM cars may be crap. The last one I owned was a 1948 Cadillac that used oil by the gallon. GM trucks are the best on the planet. Not perfect but better than the rest. You don't get lucky with 5 vehicles, it is a sign of quality engineering and care in manufacturing. Before you throw stones at GMC trucks you should check the complaints on the car you are set on buying. GMC has sold 3 times more trucks this year than Prius has. Yet on the ODI site Prius has more than 10 times the complaints. Not looking good for the 2005 Prius reliability. In spite of that rag CR. When they get their heads out of the sand they will see they gave it a high rating prematurely. incidents of stalling Prius continue with updated computer. The latest if you have not read is the fuel bladder collapses over the sending module causing the car to shut down. They need to go back to the drawing board with their hybrids.
#58 of 100 Re: Long Term Update from MT [falconone]
Aug 07, 2005 (9:31 am)
That is why GM is in the shape it is now. They won't accept the blame that they produce crap so they blame it on heath costs. THAT IS BUNK.
Your anger/frustration certainly has no relevance in this forum. GM's financial shape has nothing to do with their impressive line of trucks (inclucing the hybrid Sierra) and everything to do with events that happened a few decades ago: bad union-management negotiations regarding pensions/heatlthcare.
Falconone, other than jealousy I dont know what your motivations are?
#59 of 100 Enough
by pf_flyer HOST
Aug 07, 2005 (10:48 am)
Again, we're getting into the "personal" area here. Let's stop talking baout each other and stick to the vehicle in the topic. If you want to discuss the general health of GM, we have the Can GM survive losing billions in sales and in the Stock Market?? discussion over on News & Views. Let's keep this one focused on the Sierra hybrid.
#60 of 100 Re: Long Term Update from MT [gagrice]
Aug 07, 2005 (1:00 pm)
Gary you crack me up. I can assure you that when next year's CR comes out the Prius will trounce any product that comes from GM. I am still on track for buying my 06 Prius. Looks like you spend more time in the hybrid forums than anyplace else. We all know what that means!!! Meanwhile Toyota will be releasing more and more hybrids in the coming years. What does GM come out with? A "hybrid" truck that gets an average of 14.8 MPG. I think THEY need to go back to the drawing board.