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Re: True Hybrid [nvbanker #10]
by rfruth
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Jul 01, 2004 (4:20 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Jul 01, 2004 3:52 pm)
Bet you saw the whopping 1 MPG increase GM just announced http://wardsauto.com/ar/auto_gm_truck_tweaks/index.htm yep it is just like GM to go with a half baked idea and in the mean time Toyota & Honda are cleaning up, hope Ford with the Escape hybrid will join the fray cause hybrids are here to stay til a better solution comes along and there's nothing on my radar screen (hydrogen but that could take awhile) now, how about you ?
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Re: maybe they aren't worth it [evbo #8]
by mcats
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Jul 02, 2004 (4:15 am)
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Replying to: evbo (Mar 25, 2004 9:54 pm)
The author, Evan Boberg, doesn't understand hybrid technology all that well... all cars will get different fuel economy figures under different conditions. The "parts" argument is bunk... at least for Toyota's hybrid system. The Prius HSD's power split device is deceptively simple... it's not really a transmissions, 'per say.' Look at John1701a's posts for more details. As for the Prius fuel economy:
http://homepage.mac.com/priustech/Prius/Menu9.html
www.john1701a.com
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Re: True Hybrid [rfruth #11]
by nvbanker
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Jul 02, 2004 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: rfruth (Jul 01, 2004 4:20 pm)
I'm not positive that Hybrid is going to endure yet. There is some promise of efficiency here, but only in small cars, and mostly in town. Probably good for comuters, but there's a lot of doubt in my mind that the extra cost and added weight and complexity will be compensated for in mileage unless you drive a lot of miles every day.
I have more faith in diesel at the moment. Clearly though, this GM hybrid truck is a joke. I can't believe they ever brought it to market!
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Re: True Hybrid [nvbanker #13]
by gagrice
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Jul 02, 2004 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Jul 02, 2004 1:40 pm)
I think the only real selling point is the built in Gen Set. It sure isn't the economy. I'm wondering if they will ever make it to the average consumer.
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Big Hybrid News
by gagrice
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Jun 28, 2005 (1:26 pm)
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I went to the GMC dealer this morning intending to buy a Duramax Diesel PU. Instead I drove off in a Sierra 1500 Hybrid. It is fully loaded including XM radio. My wife likes the Classic stations. On top of all the GM discounts they dropped the hybrid option from $2500 to $1000. I wrote them a check and headed back home. They filled the tank and I am sitting at 19.4 MPG after the 15 mile drive home. Getting used to the pause when you let off on the brake and hit the accelerator may take some time. Just thought you bunch of trouble makers would like to know.
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Re: Big Hybrid News [gagrice]
by larsb
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Jun 28, 2005 (1:33 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 28, 2005 1:26 pm)
Gary That's Just Awesome !! A Hybrid in your garage, I *KNEW* it would happen someday !! Congrats !!!
 
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Re: Big Hybrid News [gagrice]
by blane
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Jun 28, 2005 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 28, 2005 1:26 pm)
Ohmagawd!
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Re: Big Hybrid News [gagrice]
by molokai
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Jun 28, 2005 (1:38 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 28, 2005 1:26 pm)
Good luck with it! I didn't know that the diesel had that restart feature. Does the A/C turn off at stoplights? Let's face it, it REALLY isn't a hybrid in the sense that we know what hybrids are today (the Prius and HAH, Insight etc). So GM calls it a hybrid because the engine shuts down at a standstill. I wonder how much stress that puts on the starter motor? Maybe they used a larger one? I also understand that the mileage gains are minimal, but since it is a diesel I would not be surprised if you get lows 20's at 65 on the highway. You were probably better off keeping your Suburban.
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Re: Big Hybrid News [molokai]
by larsb
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Jun 28, 2005 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: molokai (Jun 28, 2005 1:38 pm)
Molokai, it does not use a "starter motor" but an "Integrated Starter Generator" which uses the stored battery power to instantly start the engine.
And it's not a diesel, just a gas hybrid.
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Re: Big Hybrid News [larsb]
by gagrice
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Jun 28, 2005 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jun 28, 2005 1:41 pm)
larsb, as usual you have done your research. Yes it is gas and it is dead silent like a Prius at the stoplights. Engine starts when you let off the brake. It should do all the duties that I need a PU truck for. No emission tests in CA is a big plus. Much of the components are under the same 8yr/80k mile EPA warranty. All the hybrid modules and the ABS brake module? If it keeps up the 19 MPG city mileage I'm happy.
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