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#57 of 275 Re: Brand New S4 Tip [jeskali]
by ccap
Jan 02, 2005 (6:00 pm)
Hi Jeskali,
I just got out of a 2002 540i 6 speed. I loved it but before the the lease was up, I sold it and got into an Infiniti FX45 becasue of the all wheel drive. I thought I was making the right choice. BOY!! Was I wrong! The ride was terrible, gas mileage was super poor around 15 mpg. Ans the AWD is terrible. I was sliding all over the place.
Well I could go on and on. Anyway I was able to get out of this vehicle and now I am coming back to either a BMW or an Audi. I starting looking into an M3 or an S4. I hope to dive them this week. I really love the Quattro in the S4. I think the M3 is going to slip all over the place.
Can you give me your latest impressions of teh S4 today now that you have owned it for a few months. Have you had it out in the snow? How does it handle? Did you ever look inot the M3 or another BMW? Just wanted to get some feed back for other owners. Thanks
#58 of 275 slipping all over the place
by nyccarguy
Jan 02, 2005 (8:05 pm)
that will depend on tires. If you buy a set of winter wheels & tires for either and S4 or an M3, you will be amazed what a set of winter shoes can do. Both cars come with "Summer Only" Z-Rated performance tires that will render either car useless (regardless of AWD or RWD) in any sort of winter weather.
#59 of 275 Re: slipping all over the place [nyccarguy]
by markcincinnati
Jan 03, 2005 (3:40 pm)
Generally I agree. However, if you are in an area where the winters are moderate (where we are in Cincinnati, for instance), you may find yourself more able to go year round on three season's rubber in the quattro -- I have tried both all seasons and summer only tires -- the AWD seems to make a huge difference.
The BMW would be OK with 4 winter tires, the Audi could probably be OK with 4 all season high performance tires.
#60 of 275 Re: slipping all over the place [markcincinnati]
by kyfdx HOST
Jan 03, 2005 (8:20 pm)
Even with Quattro, I wouldn't have wanted to be on summer tires last week... The average high temperature is 37 for January in Cincinnati.. I can't imagine doing that on summer rubber..
But, I'd take the S4 with all-seasons over an M3 with winter tires any day... in inclement weather..
#61 of 275 Re: Brand New S4 Tip [ccap]
by denverg35
Jan 04, 2005 (3:45 pm)
Played with my 05 S4 in the snow last week, was certainly better that RWD G35 with snows.
Have Pirelli snows on S4, which I do not like as much as the Blizzaks I had on the G---very hard rubber for a snow. Has anyone found anything else in the 18 inch wheel size?
#62 of 275 Re: Brand New S4 Tip [denverg35]
by kyfdx HOST
Jan 04, 2005 (3:49 pm)
I don't know about size availability, but I have 17" Goodyears.... They ride pretty well.. Eagle Ultra-Grip GW-3.. Haven't checked lately, but last time I looked, you could read about them on Goodyear.com
#63 of 275 Re: slipping all over the place [kyfdx]
by audinut
Jan 05, 2005 (9:32 am)
I have an 05 S4 that I haven't gotten snow tires for yet. I am going to try this winter season with the summer tires before investing in a whole new set of tires. So far this morning when we had about two inches of snow it hasn't been too bad. I just took it slow and felt the abs kick in a couple of times. I'm only 6 miles from work on local roads so maybe I can get away without the snows.
#64 of 275 Re: slipping all over the place [kyfdx]
by markcincinnati
Jan 05, 2005 (1:31 pm)
I wish we had 37 degrees it has been in the 50's for it seems like forever and it just won't stop raining!
Yep, I've got summer tires and I made it jus' fine through the 15" snowfall we had the day or two before Christmas (once I had my driveway cleared).
Oh, I am NOT suggesting that anyone go with Summer tires in the Winter -- I am not buying more tires on a car that will be gone at most in 6 months, that's all.
And, the good news is I haven't felt the need for them thus far.
#65 of 275 Re: slipping all over the place [audinut]
by markcincinnati
Jan 05, 2005 (1:33 pm)
You probably can -- yet, you may want to do some homework and check out (when you need new tires) Ultra High Performance All Season tires. They are much less of a compromise, probably will last longer and be quieter than the Max performance Summer Tires that are OEM equip. on S4's.
Just a thought. . . .
#66 of 275 Re: slipping all over the place [markcincinnati]
by kyfdx HOST
Jan 05, 2005 (1:38 pm)
I agree.. most people will be better served with all-seasons... especially on a 4-season AWD car.. than getting max summer performance rubber..
As far as the winter Goodyears that I have.. They don't even show them anymore on their website.. So, maybe they have been discontinued.. I've only had them just over a year, though..
Anyone looking for winter tires of any type at this late date... are probably out of luck.. most sizes are sold out by now...