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Re: Want to know positives/negatives of S4 and M3 [sooks]
by m382
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Jan 24, 2006 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: sooks (Jan 23, 2006 10:45 pm)
well put sooks and agreed, arguments like these are fueled by magazines like car and driver that plot 2 cars against eachother that for all intents and purposes....aren't even that similar, and by people who don't know which to get and don't do their own homework so they ask here which is better. What...they're German,...and are upper scale and performance oriented?? I don't really think that makes them THAT alike. Seriously...do you need 4 doors or 2?? Do you need AWD or can you move along without it?? There really isn't even the need for a comparison for the two cars since they had different objectives since their creation. I love the S4...I love audi in general, I just happen to NOT need awd or 4 doors, and lucky for me I happen to love the M3,....worked out for me. Now that that's to rest haha...O, and I have nothing against turbos...I have an 04' STi, I just happen to NOT love how they eat gas, and the lag and extra maintenance that tends to come from a forced induction car. Now adays it's gotten a lot better tho....
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- #215 of 275
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Re: Want to know positives/negatives of S4 and M3 [m382]
by sooks
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Jan 24, 2006 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: m382 (Jan 24, 2006 8:06 am)
agreed m382... i would have loved to get an m3... but for a decent one it was too much money, insurance was much higher (amazing how much 4 doors decreases that!! baffles me) and *supposedly* it snows around here... so i went the awd route.. I love it, unreal power with the modifications. So wait... you have an M and an STi.. I like your style. please get me into your line of work. I drove an 05 STi, it was def. a fun car, but the interior was lacking too much for me. If i had an m3 also... then thats different  . I question your comment about eats gas though... im stage 3 and i get 23-27 mpg... im pretty sure your M doesnt get that actually the b5 s4 was pretty good on gas, its when they switched to the v8 did it suffer.....badly. But you are definately right on the more maintainance part.... but yes theyre making great improvements.
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- #216 of 275
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Re: Want to know positives/negatives of S4 and M3 [sooks]
by m382
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Jan 24, 2006 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: sooks (Jan 24, 2006 10:15 am)
hi sooks thats awesome, a performance sedan that gets good gas mileage...I certainly don't get that from my STi or M3, I actually have the pleasure of owning a 3ooC SRT-8 which definately doesn't get 23-27 mpg. They all suck on gas lol...the STi is the worst of them all because of the turbo. But that I'm willing to deal with.
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- #217 of 275
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Re: Want to know positives/negatives of S4 and M3 [m382]
by sooks
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Jan 24, 2006 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: m382 (Jan 24, 2006 12:29 pm)
ok...litereally hire me into whatever you do for a living.. im willing to relocate you got any other cars up your sleeve? what do you do
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- #218 of 275
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Re: Want to know positives/negatives of S4 and M3 [sooks]
by m382
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Jan 24, 2006 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: sooks (Jan 24, 2006 1:13 pm)
hehe, I happened to fall into the perfect situation, definately a "right place and right time" scenario. I'm a corporate liason, I do a good amount of PR work and have been fortunate enough to have some of these toys. 
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- #219 of 275
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Re: Want to know positives/negatives of S4 and M3 [sooks]
by burningrubber
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Jan 30, 2006 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: sooks (Jan 23, 2006 9:21 am)
None taken.....I am truly on 22PSI...I will take a picture of my boost gauge and put up a link soon....Its probably I clocked a 4.2-4.3 on a G-Tech Pro...so I just wanted to make a point that S4's are much more upgradable....yes it is possible to get up to 35 PSI, Garret Gt28rs and rebuild with larger compressor upgrade...its pushing way up there....I will post again when I know approx HP... but around 600-750 AWHP with new cams, valve springs, and more...it will be alot of money...I have sponsors, so it shouldn't be that hard...
What is your PSI on your S4 and what stage III did you get (company)??
If your not runnning under my (0-60) then go and get your car tuned....
Check this out not to change the subject but how tuneable turbos are...
826AWHP 42PSI">
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- #220 of 275
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Re: Want to know positives/negatives of S4 and M3 [burningrubber]
by sooks
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Jan 31, 2006 (5:09 pm)
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Replying to: burningrubber (Jan 30, 2006 7:56 pm)
i agree s4's are much more upgradeable... i just find it hard to believe you are pushing that much through stock turbos... they arent that reliable and wont last all that long. also...running 4.2-4.3 is awful quick without a turbo upgrade..what do you have done to it.. the garrett gt28rs is designed for 250-350hp range as ive seen on a couple sites.. im not saying its impossible but unlikly..you need to severely upgrade every internal within the engine. yes, turbos are highly tuneable.. but i personally have never seen an s4 pushing 600 whp... i look on audiworld where there is people all over the world.. and i dont think ive seen one much over 500hp.. as far as mine.. my stage 3 is through mtm.. and was tuned from the sole importer of mtm in the country. Now, ive heard mtm isnt the most aggresive but still is very quick,
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- #221 of 275
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Re: Want to know positives/negatives of S4 and M3 [sooks]
by burningrubber
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Jan 31, 2006 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: sooks (Jan 31, 2006 5:09 pm)
I have AWE downpipes, UUC exhaust, custom diverter valves, APR stage II ECU 93 oct..stock erased...with my upgrades I added up and its close to 400HP and over 430ft lbs.....
I have done much research as you probably and I have found for a kit from AWE Tuning has the K04 Upgrade Kit for 525HP and 550ft. lbs...w/manifold and all parts $8,400
Its probably not possible to go over 600 w/o nos...the fastest audi runs a 9.930 1/4 mile with GT28rs' and 150HP shot of nos LINK
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- #222 of 275
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Re: Want to know positives/negatives of S4 and M3 [burningrubber]
by sooks
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Jan 31, 2006 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: burningrubber (Jan 31, 2006 7:08 pm)
AWE is def known for the most power. id be surprised if your at 400...but im sure if its well tuned its definately fast. well, congrats with the car...im sure you love it as much as i love mine.. keep in mind with that awe kit, thats fully done and i believe is with intercoolers, all piping and what not and is on race gas and is at the crank...not the wheels. and the price isnt installed unless your doing it yourself.. good luck to ya though. that audi link is a nice looking car
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- #223 of 275
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Re: Want to know positives/negatives of S4 and M3 [aryn7]
by esf
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Feb 03, 2006 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: aryn7 (Oct 18, 2005 10:19 pm)
"So you can't really compare the S4 and M3 right now, they're playing leapfrog like Ford and Chevy does with its trucks and M3 is just about to leap over S4."
You're right about that, but Audi always has a backup plan. The new RS4 will be as competitive as the new M3 in all areas, and even supplies 100hp per litre. It is quick, fast, sophisticated, stylish, and very performance-oriented.
Also, when the new S4 comes out in 3 years (or 2 years after the new M3), it will again leap over the M3, most likely having the current RS4's engine.
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