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Re: Want to know positives/negatives of S4 and M3 [04s4handles]
by guido591
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Jul 31, 2005 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: 04s4handles (Jun 25, 2005 1:22 am)
"whats great is that the new s4 is often mistaken for the smaller engine older model s4"
And uh, what exactly does that mean? I suspect that you are implying that the V8 S4 easily trumps the B5S4....which isn't exactly accurate . The 2.7 Biturbo easily lends itself to performance upgrades that enable it to leave the larger behemoth in its wake. I traded my '01 for an '05 and, while the newer version has many wonderful attributes, I miss the performance of my 2.7T. "i could keep going but i think every1 see's my side"(sic). You do more baseball than college, don't you.
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- #106 of 275
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Re: Quality [munchenturbo1]
by esf
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Aug 04, 2005 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: munchenturbo1 (Jun 23, 2005 10:34 pm)
Just because you're German does not mean you can make Lexus the underdog. Lexuses are far more luxurious than BMWs, and no German manufacturer can match the owner's experience or reliability. I should know- I am on my second Lexus (an RX330) and second Audi (an S4 Cabriolet).
Lexus is also becoming far more competitive- the IS350 is a 315 hp car, and it's not even the M3-fighter. It could probably wipe the G35 across the floor.
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- #107 of 275
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Re: Quality [merc1]
by esf
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Aug 04, 2005 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Apr 20, 2005 11:50 pm)
How are they worse than BMW? The only BMW that I've seen consistently beating Audis is the 3 Series vs. A4- the A8 always wins comparisons, the A6 always comes on top of the 5 Series, and the S4 has never lost an American test that I've read. The only other exception is the TT- but that's not competitive at all. It's just cool looking. And, when the A4 is completely redesigned, it should kick some 3 Series butt.
The only thing that BMW is actually better at is performance- and that's not saying Audis have bad performance. They have great performance and accelaration off the line, with luxury, style, and value to back them up. And, quality is different than reliability. In a test I read today, the magazine said that "the A6 has the highest quality of the bunch". They didn't mean reliability.
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- #108 of 275
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Re: Want to know positives/negatives of S4 and M3 [04s4handles]
by esf
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Aug 04, 2005 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: 04s4handles (Jun 25, 2005 1:22 am)
I feel the same way about my new Cabriolet. The S4 just flies- I love playing with Bimmers, letting them think they can pass me, and then blasting by at the last moment. I also had a nice run with a '00 or so Pontiac Firebird V8, a fast car, on the highway the other day. We were fighting to pass each other, and I finally passed him, but then went on the exit off the highway.
And, I love the attention. I got a beautiful Sprint Blue color, and that way almost every luxury car owner knows that it's an S4. A man in a Porsche Cayenne Turbo gave me a thumbs up, a person in an A8L nodded at me, and someone who drove an S4 sedan just smiled at me. And, most people who drive competing companies just look at it. For a while. I can see a tad of jealousy. But, my favorite part so far was when a dark blue M3 Convertible and I were at a stoplight, and I just dusted him. Twice.
I'll never get tired of the car, and now I'm hooked on convertibles. After this, I could never go into another A6.
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- #109 of 275
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Re: Money factor on M3 lease [kyfdx]
by roughtop
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Aug 12, 2005 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Feb 25, 2005 6:45 pm)
Is there any way to get below .0020 on the money factor?
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- #110 of 275
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Re: Money factor on M3 lease [roughtop]
by kyfdx HOST
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Aug 12, 2005 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: roughtop (Aug 12, 2005 12:20 pm)
This month, the MF is .00195... for any 36 month lease.. that is the base rate.. as low as you can get..
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- #111 of 275
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Re: Want to know positives/negatives of S4 and M3 [04s4handles]
by showstopper1
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Oct 04, 2005 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: 04s4handles (Jun 25, 2005 1:22 am)
I agree, I see an m3 everyday.. On another note, however, the 00-02 s4 is feared, not the new one. If you were to "chip" your s4, will your s4 gain 70-80 hp? Think about this fact, stock V.S. stock the new s4 has 90 more horsepower and out weighs the 00-02 s4 by 300 lbs, all equaling to a .02 second slower 1/4 mile. 
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- #112 of 275
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Re: S4 Vs M3 [stealth4]
by m3_r1
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Oct 05, 2005 (6:13 am)
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Replying to: stealth4 (Jul 26, 2004 6:00 pm)
You passed a over weight BMW 760 with a speed limiter of 130 and you think you are fast? My 2001 M3 will teach you some manners if you ever try that stunt with me. As for the chip you installed, a Dinan Supercharged 01 M3 will make you wish you stayed in bed that day.
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- #113 of 275
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Re: S4 Vs M3 [m3_r1]
by showstopper1
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Oct 05, 2005 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: m3_r1 (Oct 05, 2005 6:13 am)
Dinan supercharger, nice! Still no match for my stage 3 k04 upgraded s4. See that on the california freeway, you will just waste your fuel trying to pass it up. 
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- #114 of 275
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Re: S4 Vs M3 [showstopper1]
by m3_r1
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Oct 05, 2005 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: showstopper1 (Oct 05, 2005 7:54 am)
LOL, Let's keep it real. Audi S4 owners crave,desire, and beg to get half the street cred M3 owners take for granted. S4's are just as boring to look at as any other basic car on the streets. No doubt all wheel drive is a plus in snow conditions, but what idiot in his right mind takes his prized car for a drive in the snow? That's what a winter car is for. I'm reading all this yap about what S4's can do to M3's. TALK IS CHEAP...meet me at the next red light. 
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