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Maserati Reliability / Depreciation by spiritinthesky
Apr 13, 2006 (3:23 am)
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One of my (younger) business partners is seriously considering the Quattroporte and, claiming respect for my opinion (i.e. kiss up), asked for my advice.
 
I immediately, and perhaps prematurely, questioned his judgement. I am unfortunately old enough to remember the QP of the early 80's, but not so old to have forgotten it's horrific reliability issues and ridiculous depreciation. In the meantime, a good friend has a 4+ year old Ferrari 360 that he can sell for a small profit, whereas another associate has a 3 year old Maserati Spyder that will cost him an arm and a leg to dispose of. Not to mention numerous problems along the way.
 
I know there is a certain panache with the Maserati nameplate. And I'm far from a practical person that criticizes others indulgences. Part of me would tell my partner to go for it and let him experience whatever consequences result, good or bad. But another part of me finds it difficult to passively recommend a nameplate that left so many similarly enthusiastic buyers holding the bag 25 years ago - and is still a questionable value when it comes to depreciation.
 
P.S. Regarding seat "comfort", how would you who rate the QP very high (vs. Mercedes) rate it against the seats in the M5 (previous or current). I am just curious.
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Re: Maserati Reliability / Depreciation [spiritinthesky] by paxtonk
Apr 13, 2006 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: spiritinthesky (Apr 13, 2006 3:23 am)

Seeing that the current QP has only been around for 1+ years time will only tell; but I can tell you this, our current pre-owned are selling for a fraction off of original MSRP.
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Re: Maserati Q? I've had two! by murrayr
Apr 24, 2006 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: spiritinthesky (Apr 13, 2006 3:23 am)

I have previously commented about the Q some months ago. Maserati replaced my first Q, turned around and sold it to another unsuspecting customer after multiple problems (sensors, clutch, computer) at just about 3k miles.
 
Now for my second Q. Just back from receiving a new drive shaft, had to send the main computer back to NJ for reprogramming and, yes, also replaced the clutch and throw-out bearing. All under one year of ownership.
 
The factory rep tried to tell me this wasn't so unusual and that MB and BMWs, etc, etc.
 
When it runs, nothing like it. But this is a troubled car/manufacturer. The service dept at the dealership has been wonderful. Maserati has yet to acknowledge their problems with this car's quality. If the owners ever got together, Maserati would have a real problem.
 
Avoid it for now, unless you want to buy mine...
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Re: Maserati Reliability / Depreciation [spiritinthesky] by vk00
Apr 25, 2006 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: spiritinthesky (Apr 13, 2006 3:23 am)

It might be that the participants of this message board are not a statistically correct representation of all QP owners. After all, if your car does not have any problems, why would you spend your time here? But here is my contribution.
 
My QP is now 13 months old, and I have 14K miles on it. The main problems that I had were related to the battery and the clutch (both were replaced about 6 months ago). There were several smaller ones, none of them urgent, and they were all resolved when I was bringing the car to the dealership for regular service.
 
The only one that is still not resolved is the climate control system. When it is cold outside and the climate system is set on "full auto," the speed of the fan is sometimes so high that I cannot hear the radio. The mechanics dealt with it three times without any luck. Finally I gave up and started setting the fan speed manually (When you cannot find a bug, call it "a feature"). Besides, it is warm now and it behaves fine anyway.
 
The service is excellent. The dealer normally picks up a car from my house and brings it back couple of days later. If I need a car during this period, they would give a loaner, but in that case I would have to drive to the dealership myself.
 
I also had a bad experience with the summer tires during the snow storm in February. I decided to buy winter tires, but cannot tell you the results because there was no snow since then, and now it is time to switch back.
 
The seat is very comfortable: I had several 4-5 hour trips last summer, and could easily make them without a single stop.
 
In summary, I am very happy with the car. Of course, I do not plan to keep it beyond the 3-year warranty period. But I very well may trade it in for a new one just before the warranty expires..
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Re: Maserati Reliability / Depreciation [vk00] by merc1
Apr 26, 2006 (3:52 am)
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Replying to: vk00 (Apr 25, 2006 11:25 am)

Very interesting reading here. I'm curious to know what you'll replace your Quattroporte with after the warranty runs out?
 
M
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Re: Maserati Reliability / Depreciation [merc1] by paxtonk
Apr 26, 2006 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Apr 26, 2006 3:52 am)

"In summary, I am very happy with the car. Of course, I do not plan to keep it beyond the 3-year warranty period. But I very well may trade it in for a new one just before the warranty expires.. "
 
I would say he plans to get another QP. Not owning one I don't have a history to tell but I was fortunate enough to drive one for a few days and must say it is far superior to any 4 door I have ever driven.
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Re: Maserati Reliability / Depreciation [merc1] by vk00
Apr 26, 2006 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Apr 26, 2006 3:52 am)

If the second year and another 15K do not result in any disaster, I will definitely consider buying another QP. I certainly like QP much more than other cars in this class. I also hope that some of the bugs will be cleaned out, and that will make QP even more attractive.
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Re: Maserati Reliability / Depreciation [vk00] by merc1
Apr 26, 2006 (10:31 pm)
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Replying to: vk00 (Apr 26, 2006 10:51 am)

I see. Everyone here seems to love this car no matter what happens with it. That says something. Maybe one day I'll get a chance to drive one and see what all the love is about.
 
Did anyone here consider the new M5 before buying the Quattroporte?
 
M
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Re: Maserati Reliability / Depreciation [vk00] by jjvince
May 18, 2006 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: vk00 (Apr 25, 2006 11:25 am)

I am fortunate enough to have a 2006 Quattroporte along with a 2005 Gransport. Both cars are an absolute dream, and I have had no trouble (with the exception of a new battery in the Gransport... covered by the warranty). My neighbor has a New 2006 M5 and I must say it is a beautiful car and it exhibits the same power curve (once you figure out how to put the computer in high power mode) that my 2004 S55 did. As for the interior... well, as nice as his M5 is, I'd take the QP any day!
 
I almost purchased a Flying Spur, I had my 5k deposit down and everything until I drove the QP... I was sold on the first drive. To me it is (almost) as luxurious as the Flying Spur, but handles so much better there is really no comparison. So I guess my point is that there are trade offs in every car you buy, and it all boils down to what you want in an automobile. By the way, My Gransport will take the M5 off the line every time, (even with his power launch) but he does have the power to blow by me at around 95mph, but then I pass him by like he's standing still when we exceed his speed limiter at 150mph... (the 210 fwy at 6:30 - 7am on a Sunday, during the Highway Patrol's shift change is the place to be) for the most part we were the only cars on the road, until around 7, then I had to back off from 180mph (and still not peaked out) because there were a few too many cars on the road to insure the safety for all concerned.
 
Resale???? Who knows... Maintenance??? My S55 was the loneliest car I ever had, by that I mean it constantly needed the companionship of its brothers and sisters at the dealership... (Penske Motorcars) Not to mention any names of course...
 
If you want a rocket ship, buy a Nobel (0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds) If you want the ULTIMATE in Luxury... get a Bentley (Flying Spur or Arnage)... If you want a great compromise between the two, power, handling and luxury... There is only ONE selection in my book... the Quattroporte is phenomenal!
 
Just my 2 cents...
 
John
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Re: Maserati Reliability / Depreciation [jjvince] by spiritinthesky
May 18, 2006 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: jjvince (May 18, 2006 9:56 am)

Two Maseratis in the garage deserves congratulations, not rebuke.
 
However, I do have to take a little issue with what appears to be overly enthusiastic performance claims. Over the last several weeks, I have driven a variety of cars in order to confirm my decision to order a 2007 997 Turbo. Amoung them, I drove a well broken-in Maserati Gransport extensively. I own a 2003 M5 (the 400 hp weakling, but with the proper 6-speed manual) and have also driven the new M5 with it's 507 hp V10 hooked up to a rather frustrating 7-speed SMG. And I have driven a new 911S extensively.
 
The following are my opinions: I liked the Gransport more than I expected, it is a very nice car in all regards. But it did not feel nearly as quick "off the line" in my hands as a 911S. The new M5 should be quicker yet, but I would agree, the SMG "launch control" is a mess. On one attempt, it shot forward like a rocket. But for the rest of my driving experience, I wished I could have "shot" the BMW engineer that authored this SMG travesty. My own 2003 M5 6-speed feels about as quick as the Gransport.
 
Being curious as to how you and I could have such different impressions / experiences, I looked up some road tests to see if I was mis-impressed. It appears not. Here are some results:
 
Road Tests
 
Maserati GS: 0-60: 4.9; 0-100: 11.7
BMW M5: 0-60: 4.6; 0-100: 9.8
Porsche 911S: 0-60: 4.2; 0-100: 10.7
My 2003 M5: 0-60: 4.8; 0-100: 11.6 (from Road and Tack)
 
It is kind of silly debating the relative quickness of cars that are all more than adequately fast, but the above results are pretty close to my own (relative) experience.
 
The Gransport and AM V8 appear to be destined to a Mexican showdown. Very similar performance, top of the line interiors. Italian vs. English appeal.

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