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Maserati Quattroporte, Sedan
#46 of 174 Re: Depreciation & Reliability [kacker]
May 09, 2005 (11:58 am)
Here's my take on the Quattroporte: I ordered one in May, 2004. Estimated delivery: March or April, 2005. Around Christmas last year, I asked the dealer for an official confirmation and spec sheet, because they said my car was about to be built. When they furnished the form, they had raised the price about $20,000 (to around $125,000) and wanted me to sign a form saying I would pay any future sticker increase until the car actually was delivered.
I extensively test drove the QP and liked it, but not that much. Didn't think it was worth $60,000 more than the equivalent supercharged Jaguar. I cancelled the contract and, after more test drives, bought an Audi A8. (Also tried a new Jaguar XJ-R, but thought it was too much like my 1995 XJ-R). The A8 screams precision; the interior is almost as nice as the Maserati; the engine looks and sounds fabulous; all the hi-tech gadgets work perfectly; it has height-adjustable air suspension, all wheel drive, and an all-aluminum chassis. Oh, and it cost half the price of the QP. The biggest advantage of the QP in my opinion is the extensive color and interior choices, but again for the price . . . Since I have several other cars (3 Jaguars and 2 Alfas), I may end up getting one in a few years when they have depreciated down to $30K!
#47 of 174 Depreciation
May 10, 2005 (10:30 am)
Still waiting for my car to arrive in LA after I shipped it from NC last week. It should be here in a couple of days. Can't wait to get it again. Separation anxiety guys!!
Ken, I feel this car handles just as well if not better than my 911. It may have something to do with the weight distribution. I also enjoy the 80-120 on the highway a lot. Its a little rocket at that speed.
A/C: Personally the best way to handle it that I have found is to leave it at fully automatic and just adjust the temp to where it blows the kind of temp you want. Works out great most of the time.
Depreciation: I thought a lot about what foster 1 wrote prior to buying my car. Although I got it $10,000 under MSRP to begin with, that not withstanding, I still feel that the time to own this car is while its under warranty and not when the warranty is over. The bills will pile up fast and furious when the warranty is over. Also I have an acquaintance who works for Maserati marketing in Modena, Italy and he tells me that there are 2 other price increases scheduled for this year. This car will end up around $140,000 by sometime next year. Now, that may never happen, but within 4 months of launch, the car has already gone up $6,000, so I would think there is some credibility to this story. This person said that essentially they are selling a 4 door Ferrari (Modena sells for $180000 and this car is built by Ferrari, not Maserati) for $100,000 to enter the market and as already witnessed, they will quickly get the price up to what they feel is true market value. The problems have been minor and bigger problems have existed in more reliable cars such as BMW and Mercedes. To the point that I know first hand (confirmed by a BMW dealer) that the 7 series had a problem of stalling. In fact I know someone whose car stalled 5 times before they finally (supposedly) fixed it.
I don't think this car is going to loose much money for the first year or two, but then it may and our friend here could get lucky and pick it up for $30,000 in a year.
By the way, I love the new Alfas. How has your experience been with regards to maintenance?
Have a great week all and happy driving!
#48 of 174 Re: Depreciation [kacker]
May 14, 2005 (7:32 am)
I just got a Neiman Marcus limited edition Quattroporte. This car was in the 2004 Neiman Marcus Christmas catalogue in the fantasy gifts section. There were only 60 made of this edition. The offering began at 12:00 noon and at 12:03 the orders had all been taken. In 34 minutes the deals were all done. The back up list in case any deals fell out was in the tens of thousands.It is the fastest that a Neiman Marcus edition has ever sold out. I don't think this is a harbinger of high depreciation of these cars.
I got my car from Penski Wynn in Las Vegas the same week the new Wynn hotel opened and people were leaving their places in line to get into the hotel/casino to come over and admire this car. I had a gentleman in a carrera chase me down just to give me the thumbs up. People have come into businesses to ask who's car it is and to ask about the car. Ihave been told "that is the hottest car have ever seen and my husband drives a Ferrari"
With all this reaction in one week I don't think that this car is gong to tank in the near future. I love the ride in this car, the handling, the acceleration and the overall sense I get when in it.
I own a Corvette, a Cadillac XLR. a Tahoe and a Lexus. although each of those autos has their own niche the Maserati blows them all out of the water..
I would buy another one tomorrow in a minute, as a matter of fact am trying to figure out how to get my hands on a MC12. That is my new dream and fantasy.
I also would be happy to answer any questions I am able to.
Thanks for reading this and I hope I was able to be of some assistance.
Jim (a very happy man)
#49 of 174 Re: Depreciation [soberjim]
May 14, 2005 (7:55 am)
Hey Jim, congratulations!
My QP isn't the NM Edition but has the same exterior color and interior mix except for the wood choice.
We went to Modena to the factory to see more color and interior choice. There was one Burgandy with Ivory and burgandy stitching chrome wheels and a very cool grill. It was kind of hidden away and covered but they showed it to us. What we learned later was that this was the NM prototype and was used in the photography for NM. We loved the color package and ordered accordingly.
I was in Las Vegas just a couple weeks ago with this car; maybe we'll pass on the strip sometime. Let me know if I can help you with anything with the car.
#51 of 174 Re: Depreciation [kacker]
Jun 13, 2005 (11:12 pm)
How did you get this car 10k under sticker. I drove (and loved it) 3 QP's today and will probably end up buying one this week. Have you gotten used to the Auto shifting as yet? It seemed a little jerky to me. I am thinking of getting the one with the sports pacakge but am worried about stiffness resulting in loss of comfort. Your thoughts...
Anyone using the phone (stock) or one with the blue tooth (after market) set up.
#52 of 174 Re: Depreciation [akurana]
Jun 21, 2005 (2:56 pm)
For what it's worth, our local dealer didn't recommend the sports package, didn't think it was worth the tradeoff. The 19" wheels do seem to be a bit of an improvement and comfort seems fine with excellent handling.
The instructions concerning the phone show a convoluted setup, not at all as simple and direct as, say, a Mercedes S500 (one of the only good things about the car). Verizon doesnt want to touch the car to put in a Motorola bluetooth car kit, nor do I want them to, nor does the dealer recommend something hard wired which can cause screwed up signals to the 21 electronic control modules in the car which monitor things like electric current draw. I am about to try the Motorola Bluetooth phone with the separate wireless Bluetooth speaker; waiting for the speaker to come in. It would seem to be easily placed with velcro on any portion of the headliner or sun visor, and the velcro sticks directly without gluing backing piece. Will let you know if it works.
The Auto shifting takes some getting used to but it is good to have the auto mode in bumper to bumper traffic, where you can't have any fun in the manual mode.
#53 of 174 I'm Pissed
Jun 23, 2005 (7:13 am)
I picked up a 05 QP with 4000 miles for 107,500 in Santa Barbara on Friday. It's a great ride but the car is with the dealer since yesterday. It refused to go into reverse, I got 15 or so errors. I'm pissed. Has anyone else had this problem?