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Re: Success? [blane] by samiam_68
May 15, 2007 (5:43 pm)
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Replying to: blane (May 15, 2007 3:17 pm)

Accord Hybrid is a total failure for Honda. Nobody is buying them. That's why there is nothing going on in this thread.
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Re: Success? [samiam_68] by willis3
May 16, 2007 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: samiam_68 (May 15, 2007 5:43 pm)

Assuming I can purchase the Accord Hybrid for the same price or less than an EX-V6, makes sense to get the hybrid for the $1,300 tax credit.
 
Reliability should be decent, hopefully gas mileage is slightly better than the regular V6.
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Re: Success? [willis3] by nowakj66
May 17, 2007 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: willis3 (May 15, 2007 12:00 pm)

My 2005 Accord Hybrid has been a good purchase for me. I wanted a car big enough for 2 infant car seats and to fit a tall driver (me). I also wanted an automatic so my wife could drive it. Traded a 2003 Accord 5 MT sedan.
 
At the time, I paid the premium over a non-hybrid v6 for a variety of reasons.
 
First Accords are common as house sparrows in central Ohio and I wanted to be a little different. On that score, there are other cars that would have been more obviously different.
 
Second, I wanted to do my part in some small way to demonstrate to car manufacturers that there is an interest in developing fuel saving technologies and some segment of the market was willing to pay a premium for it. Not a lot of people joined me in the Accord purchase but the over all effect of Prius, Civic Hybrid and Fit purchases I think amply demonstrates that such a market exists.
 
Lastly, I wanted to save some money on gas. My own MPG is about 25 MPG in 99% stop and go city driving. Probably about 10 - 15% better than I would have gotten with a V6 accord.
 
Would I do it over again? Maybe.
 
Goal 1 would have been better served by getting an Acura TL. Goal 2 by a Civic Hybrid. And goal 3 by a 4 cylinder Accord!
 
But I am still happy with my purchase. If I were buying a car for my family again today, I would get probably buy a Honda CR-V or an Acura TL.
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Re: Success? [samiam_68] by hyowner
May 17, 2007 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: samiam_68 (May 15, 2007 5:43 pm)

Total failure? You must be thinking of the Ford 500, Chevy Colbalt, DCX Aspen, etc.
 As an owner of a 2006 HAH w/Navi, I'm trying to think what this car does poorly. Once you understand that this is a performance hybrid and not a 100 mile a gallon car, then you get it. Better mileage than the V-6 and Consumer Reports has it getting 1 mph better than the 4 with more horsepower than the both (how they got that number about the 4,I'm still not sure). The gas mileage is just what it says on the sticker, and the more I drive it, the better the mileage is getting. This car rides and drives like a dream, no heartaches,rattles, squeaks etc. I had the dealer put in a sway bar from a TL and foglights, perhaps a better sound system would round out this car.
I paid slightly under sticker for this (I know, I should of waited) as I wanted to buy a Honda and get something that would show others that a Hybrid is not a spooky thing to own. I remember folks say that I could not recoup the price difference untill gas prices hits $3 to $4 dollars a gallon.
Ok, this morning the price in Detroit is $3.41.
But it's not about that. Buying the HAH was about buying a solid car with soild engineering that is going to last my family a long time.Based on driving this one for slightly more than a year, I feel good about buying this "failure"...
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Re: Success? [hyowner] by willis3
May 18, 2007 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: hyowner (May 17, 2007 3:23 pm)

Thanks for sharing your experience.
 
As much as I would like to go out and purchase the Acura TL Type-S with the 6MT, it's my wife who thinks we should get a hybrid. I know the Accord can be had with the 6MT as well, but since the Hybrid is slightly more powerful, gets better gas mileage, and will net a $1,300 credit, this is going on my list of one to consider.
 
The one downside is that the rear seat is non-folding because of the battery pack, right?
 
I guess the first step is to go test drive the vehicle.
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Re: Success? [willis3] by hyowner
May 18, 2007 (5:04 pm)
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Replying to: willis3 (May 18, 2007 12:49 pm)

You know Willis 3, I was in the same boat as you. I wanted to first buy the TL (slightly better leather, sound system, and ooooh,it's a Acura). What turned me off was that you could not use regular gas and the mileage didn't measure up. The more I drive the HAH (and learn from others about the better way to drive it) the more I love it. Yes, the back seat does not fold down, but taking the HAH to Costco every other week, there hasn't been anything I bought that I couldn't get in the car.
The $1,300 tax break, luxso interior, and solid engineering were a great help in helping me buy this car.
But the old school side of me likes the idea of picking on Charger SXTs on Woodward and feeling the torque rush kick in...
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Pricing Info for Honda Accord Hybrid w/ NAVI by jak666
May 19, 2007 (6:50 pm)
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Giving back for some of the useful info found here.
  
I just took delivery of a 2007 Honda Accord Hybrid with NAVI, purchased on 5/8/07. This was a straight cash purchase with no trade-in, no financing. Deal was consummated after a modest amount of haggling (!!!). Starting point was Costco pricing at $29,885 for the car without the wheel locks. (The Window Sticker (MSRP) was $33,090, invoice $29,796.) Wheel locks were installed (List $98)
  
Final Price Paid $29,485.
Savings $ 3,703 or 11.2%.
  
Transportation, taxes, registration & miscellaneous junk fees are not part of these figures. Dealer was Honda of Stevens Creek Honda in San Jose, CA. (owned by a big automotive group, Sonic Automotive).
  
Honda seems to be getting quite aggressive on the pricing B-4 the new Accords arrive later this year. Perhaps someone could comment on the current holdbacks/dealer incentives being offered.
  
Thx & regards---jak
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Re: The Edge of Outright Fraud [steady2] by jak666
May 19, 2007 (7:29 pm)
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Replying to: steady2 (Mar 02, 2007 3:23 pm)

While reading your post, I happened to note your mention of your odometer inaccuracy. I'm a big Honda/Acura fan having logged over 750,000 miles in various models over the years. Not only have I been a satisfied, repeat buyer, I found Honda has been very good about taking care of problems... even those caused by the dealer. Anyway, I currently own an 2004 Acura TSX which has been a jewel. I recently received an interesting letter concerning odometer accuracy and the settlement of a class action suit. It turns out a Honda supplier (Nippon Seiki) supplied odometers which (may) have overstated mileage by 2-4%. Note this affects all US market Hondas/Acuras purchased between April 13,2002 and November 7, 2006. Obviously, this has implications for warranty coverage and leased vehicles. The settlement of this class action suit is to extend the mileage warranties by 5%.
 
BTW, this affects about 6,000,000 Hondas/Acuras. Because of an administrative screw-up, approximately 500,000 folks weren't notified of this situation.
 
All the specifics can be found at link title
 
And as an interesting commentary on how these kind of things work, the woman who first noticed this problem and wanted to file a suit will get a $10,000 "incentive award" for her trouble. The lawyers involved will get $9,800,000 for their efforts...
 
Welcome to the Settlement Class!
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Re: The Edge of Outright Fraud [jak666] by gagrice
May 19, 2007 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: jak666 (May 19, 2007 7:29 pm)

The lawyers involved will get $9,800,000 for their efforts...
 
That in one sentence points to a major problem in this country. Good info for those that might be affected.
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Just as I predicted... by samiam_68
Jun 05, 2007 (9:12 am)
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HAH is dead.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/06/05/honda_dropping_hybrid/index.html

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