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Replying to: xcel (Dec 30, 2004 10:35 pm) The MSRP of the HAH is only $2,800 something more than the MSRP of the Accord V6 EX. One should be willing to pay a little bit extra for the brand new hot HAH. In this slow economic climate, all other cars are also on big sale. Honda automobiles gets the negative impact.
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Replying to: viet (Dec 30, 2004 11:19 pm) 240 HP in an Accord V6 is really something. 15 extra HP on a HAH is also something more terrific. I shameful admit that I have been so obsessed with Honda's real HP and the awesome response from those big fat V6 engines. However, I have never "floored" my V6s as your wife did it quite a few times while taking chances to get away from the cops.
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Replying to: viet (Dec 30, 2004 11:30 pm) You might consider the following fact as trivial. But HAH's engine and transmission are made in Japan. I notice that Japanese electronic products made in Japan are twice the prices of same products made in other countries. I do hope the HAH is a really solid car. This fact may justify that HAH is not on big sale recently. |
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Replying to: viet (Dec 30, 2004 10:54 pm) The MSRP of the HAH is only $2,800 something more than the MSRP of the Accord V6 EX. One should be willing to pay a little bit extra for the brand new hot HAH. ___You have to look at the Honda Accord - “Prices Paid and Buying Experiences” forum. I think the last 05 Accord EX V6 (non-NAVI) went for < $23,300. This is much less then the $32,500 you had to pay for the AH. However, I have never "floored" my V6s as your wife did it quite a few times while taking chances to get away from the cops. ___What are you talking about? My wife has never floored the MDX and it she has never had to do such a thing to get away from any police officer? The Accord V6 is real smooth. Your wife may want to test drive one to compare with the MDX. ___I am sure the Accord’s V6 is as smooth as the Acura’s 3.5 L V6 but it was the Accord’s lack of amenities as well as a clean and upscale interior that turned her off. She doesn’t like Acura leather as much as Toyota’s, Ford’s, or Lexus’ which is another reason I am looking for a replacement … I like the MDX for many reasons including its size and the > 30 mpg out on the highway when I drive it but it isn’t enough given her terrible 17 mpg average daily commute as of late in the 0 - 15 degree F temps we have had here in the Chicagoland area over the past 3 weeks. The last 3 days not with standing of course  I just don’t know if I can get her into an upscale something else that is a bit more fuel efficient or if it is cost effective given the depreciation just to get into whatever with higher fuel efficiency. Not that I am complaining about the MDX’s resale because it is stupendous by comparison to just about any other automobile but her 17 mpg back and forth pisses me off to no end and even the kids are beginning to get on her about it as well … God Bless them if you know what I mean You might consider the following fact as trivial. But HAH's engine and transmission are made in Japan. I notice that Japanese electronic products made in Japan are twice the prices of same products made in other countries. ___There are many non-hybrid Accord’s that are made in Japan. Any VIN beginning with JH are Japanese made in fact. The glaring item I see in regards to the supposed superiority of Japanese made Honda’s is that the Honda/Acura tranny’s having problems in the past 4 to 5 years were all designed and built in Japan. That takes the glow off of any Honda product(s) made exclusively in Japan imho. ___For me, I have driven enough miles in the Insight to get more then just a feel for Honda’s IMA technology. It doesn’t wow me like some here and thus with a much shorter commute coming, I am not looking at Insight type FE but a more practical local car with luxuries we are used to in my wife’s automobiles. I would love the TL’s interior, exterior, and similar size as that of the Accord but for it to come with Accord’s base I4’s ICE (not souped up and its FE destroyed like that of the TSX) as well as the tires of the std. Accord’s for FE purposes. Even with my wife’s terrible FE skills, the non-setup I4 was giving her 35 to 40 mpg for some portions of her test drive (highway portions) vs. my I4 based Accord test drive (highway portion) yielding 50 + in much warmer temperatures. Neither Acura nor Lexus offer a very fuel efficient but luxurious automobiles to date unfortunately. 45 + is the beginning of what I call fuel efficient and the ES and RXh won’t hit those kind of numbers no matter how I drive it … The RXh might if I drove it around at 33 mph but that isn’t practical in the least  ___Good Luck ___Wayne R. Gerdes
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Replying to: xcel (Dec 30, 2004 11:47 pm) You know a lot about Honda automobiles and other cars and I sincerely admire for that. My final word: I am still convinced that I can achieve the MPG of 38 to 40 plus on my HAH on the highway. That was one of my main reasons, on top of other reasons, to buy it. In a few years its price will be saturated and it will be less expensive. Now, for the MDX, TL, Ody, HAH, buyers find tough to negotiate with dealerships to get discounts. I have stayed away from expensive MDX and Acura with low MPG for a long time. Thank you for your feedback.
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Replying to: viet (Dec 31, 2004 12:56 am) You might have made me feel "so stupid, uninformed and ignorant..." not buying an old Accord model. I knew all those big sales on Honda. With out-the-door $28K or less I could buy a nice 2005 EX V6 Accord with NAVI. BUT, it was so difficult to me to resist the temptation to try the new Accord Hybrid technology. |
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Replying to: xcel (Dec 30, 2004 11:47 pm) One of the posters on another thread, highender, is not at all happy with the mileage he gets with his new Acura TL. The biggest complaint is having to get the revs up so high to get the rated HP. Not very much torque. Your wife may be better off with a GM V6. They get decent mileage with little effort. Not sure if they are plush enough for her tastes. They are roomier than most of the Japanese competition.
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Replying to: viet (Dec 31, 2004 7:20 am) I think many of us are so much into the economy of cars that we cannot get past it. There is something to be said for being first on the block to own a unique car. The HAH is truly unique. It will be several years before we know if it is a great car. That is the chance you decided to take. I hope you love it as much as the other Accords in your stable. My advice, keep the boys out of it.
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 31, 2004 8:03 am)
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Replying to: viet (Dec 31, 2004 9:56 am) And as 2004 comes to an end, let us remember to respect each other and not berate each other for the personal decisions we make concerning the cars we drive. Just because a car like the HAH is not one that everyone would choose for himself or herself, that does not give us the right to pick apart someone else's choice--especially here in this discussion that is entirely about the HAH, not about what other cars someone could buy for less money or whatever. Happy New Year! |
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