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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 30, 2004 8:40 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 30, 2004 8:33 pm) Bingo! You are correct about hybrid minivans representing radical change. Your argument confirms my argument about hybrid technology.
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Replying to: backy (Dec 30, 2004 8:46 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Dec 30, 2004 8:50 pm) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 30, 2004 8:58 pm)  Whenever you talk about your cars, it's about the 1990 Lexus and the old Suburban and the old Mazda 626. I would fly to get a good deal on a car too, if necessary. Fortunately I've been able to get good deals on the cars I've purchased close to home. I just haven't purchased a really "hot" car like the HAH before. Closest I came was the '04 Prius I ordered, but I got $500 off list on that in November '03, so I didn't think that was unreasonable given the popularity of the car.
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Replying to: backy (Dec 30, 2004 9:04 pm) PS I bought my first new vehicle in 1964, A Toyota Land Cruiser for $2400 here in San Diego. The only Japanese car I still wish I had.
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 30, 2004 9:20 pm) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 30, 2004 8:58 pm) Alaska and California are notorious for overcharging. ___I don’t know about Alaska but California has had some of the best deals going as of the last 2 - 4 weeks on Accord LX’s, EX’s, EX-L’s, EX-L’s w/ NAVI, and V6’s w/ and w/out NAVI in the country. You bet it is worth the flight and drive back. I would turn the trip out into a mini-vacation in fact. ___Good Luck ___Wayne R. Gerdes
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Replying to: xcel (Dec 30, 2004 9:51 pm) And of course if one wants zero dollar pay out from his tight pocket he can jog fast to work or frog leap to the shopping malls every day to save big bucks.
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Replying to: viet (Dec 30, 2004 10:18 pm) I love the highly sophisticated NAVI., 8 cup holders, 8 airbags, 2 cell phone chargers, 105K miles maintenance schedule, no spare tire, 255HP, 0 to 60 in 6.5 seconds, the decent MPG 30/38 plus, VCM, ICE, auto stop, 3 working engines on highway, and other electronic, electric and mechanical components of the HAH. Timing belt is to be replaced at 105K miles. I always have achieved MPG better than the sticker MPG. ___You can speak plenty of the AH’s amenities but they are no different from the non-hybrid I4 or V6 based Accord’s you could purchase for $8,000 to $10,000 less … except for the less powerful ICE, no TCS, more trunk space, and the powered sunroof of course. The wife test drove an I4 EX-L w/ NAVI yesterday for ~ 12 miles from dead cold with ~ ½ of that city. We ended up her drive at a nice 30.7 mpg parking lot to parking lot in 39 degree F temps. She doesn’t drive anything like I do but she also never needed to floor the I4 on that trip around town or down the State Route highway and back either. See below for more on this … Honda Inc. has been offering 1.9% financing on all Accord models except the HAH (2.9%). It is the best deal ever … And of course if one wants zero dollar pay out from his tight pocket he can jog fast to work or frog leap to the shopping malls every day to save big bucks. ___Non-hybrid based 05 Accord’s of all trims (I4 LX’s through EX-L’s w/ NAVI and V6’s) have been leaving the show rooms of both the East and West Coast Honda dealerships for a best $1,235 under Invoice to a few hundred under Invoice in the last 2 weeks and with the 1.9%. All except the AH which is MSRP or MSRP + still. ___A few items my wife commented on during her test drive was the I4’s lack of or feel of power vs. her much more powerful daily driver, the MDX. I asked her when was the last time she floored the MDX? She said never. I then told her this is a 9.0 second to 60 or less car vs. the 8 second to 60 MDX. She floored it for about 5 seconds and didn’t say another word about its performance. She did comment on the I4’s lack of smoothness when accelerating in comparison to the MDX. She drives with her foot in a continuously non-smooth acceleration/deceleration oscillation which not only drives me batty, it is terrible for FE so if anyone could feel a lack of smoothness, she could  Her other comments and I have to agree are that the interior, sunroof, sunroof trim, and amenities are not nearly as nice as the MDX’s unfortunately. We didn’t have time for her to test drive the V6 but it would not have mattered, a PZEV based I4 Accord EX-L w/ NAVI might land in my garages parking space but it won’t end up in hers. Why didn’t Acura build the TL (TSX is too small) w/ the Accord’s std. I4 and possibly Hybridize it instead? It would make the additional cost easier to swallow as the Acura premiums and more upscale interiors could hide the hybridization up-charge far better imho. ___Good Luck ___Wayne R. Gerdes
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