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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 29, 2004 1:11 pm) The HAH uses a three liter motor at 240 hp. The net effect of the electric motor is 15 hp. The manin effect of VCM is to improve highway mileage by shutting down 3 cylinders and it does not add horsepower. Happy New Year, MidCow |
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falconne, As there are more hybrids on the road, the novelty and uniqueness of hybrids will diminish. This is what happens to any new technology. The premium price of hybrids today do not only reflect gas savings or a desire to be more green, but mainly the urge to own the latest and newest technology. Nobody in this forum can justify buying a hybrid merely on gas savings unless they drive more than double of what the average owner drives annually. The only justification for the premium paid for hybrids is the fact that there is a limited supply of hybrids. Once the supply of hybrids increases, the novelty and uniqueness of these vehicles will decrease and prices will go down. Who will pay a premium prices above gas savings---once hybrid technology become as common as automatic transmissions?
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backy, "little on a hybrid that cannot be serviced by a competent mechanic." Assuming a competent independent mechanic services your car. Unfortunately there are quite a few mechanics who are incompetent and may share the same electrocuted fate as those awaiting death row.
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Replying to: dewey (Dec 30, 2004 8:57 pm) What will happen with the HAH, I think, is what happens with most new models after they have been out for awhile: discounts will start to appear in time. So the $3000 or so "hybrid premium" for the HAH will become just that, and not more based on hyper market demand for the HAH compared to other Accords. This is not a hybrid phenomenon but a market phenomenon. Buyers are paying top dollar for the '05 Odyssey now, too. But in a year or two discounts will return, just as they did when the newness of the last-gen Ody wore off. Thus people who buy the HAH now will pay a huge premium for that privilege, just as people who have to have a new Ody today will pay more than people who buy one a year or two from now.
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Replying to: dewey (Dec 30, 2004 9:05 pm) Are you saying a competent mechanic will be electrocuted doing routine maintenance on an HAH? Things like oil changes, brake checks, coolant flushes, tranny flushes, tire rotations? If so, perhaps you should report that safety hazard immediately to the NHTSA so they can initiate a recall action on the HAH. Do you know what the service schedule for the HAH is? Do you know which service items cannot be handled by a competent mechanic?
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Replying to: backy (Dec 30, 2004 9:10 pm) BUT there is one big difference. The potential technology improvements in future hybrids may be more rapid than the odyssey. In a few years the Prius 2 and the current HAH could be as obsolete as a Pentium 1 is today. I dont see such radical changes in the market for minivans(odyssey). And the more radically technology changes, the bigger effect it will have on future prices.
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Replying to: backy (Dec 30, 2004 9:14 pm) Thanks for the info about the NHTSA. I will call them tomorrow and save thousands of lives :b |
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Replying to: dewey (Dec 30, 2004 9:24 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 30, 2004 9:10 pm) The Odyssey prices paid is a very busy thread. Seems you can get real good deals on the EX with leather. That would be a good way to try out Honda's VCM. Several bought at just over Invoice. That is where a person should buy any vehicle, or walk out of the dealership. obrien040362, "Honda Odyssey: Prices Paid & Buying Experience" #7768, 29 Dec 2004 11:51 pm
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 30, 2004 9:40 pm)
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