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#1773 of 3591 Re: Resale & Battery Lifespan [ktnr] by falconone Dec 29, 2004 (6:37 pm)
Replying to: ktnr (Dec 29, 2004 6:29 pm) The battery should last the life of the vehicle, just as it is designed in the Prius. I wouldn't be too concerned.
#1774 of 3591 Re: Resale & Battery Lifespan [ktnr] by blane Dec 29, 2004 (7:22 pm)
Replying to: ktnr (Dec 29, 2004 6:29 pm) The darn thing has only been on the road for less than two weeks. How can anyone provide you with a knowledgeable comment about resale value? After about a year, perhaps there will be some minimal amount of resale data to go on. Replies to this message: viet (Dec 29, 2004 8:37 pm) backy (Dec 30, 2004 8:35 am)
#1775 of 3591 Re: Resale & Battery Lifespan [blane] by viet Dec 29, 2004 (8:37 pm)
Replying to: blane (Dec 29, 2004 7:22 pm) I know some happy Insight' owners who were able to drive their first Insight hybrid to 180K miles with no problems with 60+ MPG. Insight were introduced by Honda in 1999. Replies to this message: backy (Dec 30, 2004 8:35 am)
#1776 of 3591 Re: Resale & Battery Lifespan [viet] by backy Dec 30, 2004 (8:35 am)
Replying to: viet (Dec 29, 2004 8:37 pm) The fact that the HAH is based on a historically reliable car with an excellent record for high resale value is a big plus. Also, Honda's hybrid technology has proven to be reliable in the Civic hybrid and Insight, e.g. refer to Consumer Reports' reliability surveys.
#1777 of 3591 Re: [robertsmx] by vinry Dec 30, 2004 (12:32 pm)
Replying to: robertsmx (Dec 29, 2004 9:22 am) Unless HAH has it differently from other Hondas/Acuras, I believe the curtain airbags are mounted one on each side but covering front as well as rear.   I have an EX-V6 and the side curtain airbags are clearly labeled on the four corners.
#1778 of 3591 Re: Resale & Battery Lifespan [ktnr] by dewey Dec 30, 2004 (4:10 pm)
Replying to: ktnr (Dec 29, 2004 6:29 pm) "Anyone want to comment on long-term resale value for the HAH? What about the lifespan of the batteries and their ultimate replacement cost?"   Just consulted with the Oracle of Mount Zeus and was told the following:   Long term resale value of the HAH will be the best in the industry!   Lifespan of batteries will be a non-issue unless you want to keep the HAH until 2031.   And oil barrel prices will drop from the current $40 range to the 7 to 9 dollar range in the next few weeks!
#1779 of 3591 Re: Resale & Battery Lifespan [ktnr] by dewey Dec 30, 2004 (5:10 pm)
Replying to: ktnr (Dec 29, 2004 6:29 pm) ktnr,   a serious answer to your question is that the lifespan of batteries and its replacement costs are an unknown? Long term resale value is just as unknown (will they depreciate as non-hybrid Hondas). Yes, there are stats on the hybrid civic, but these I would not call long term. Also resale values of all hybrids will be currently high--due to hybrids being the latest and greatest thing. In future years, the novelty of hybrids will fade and so will the resale values. When you buy an HAH, you buy much more uncertainty and potential expenses than a regular car.   Also if you keep the car long-term do you really want to have it serviced always at Honda dealers. I tend to flee from dealerships after warranty and seek independents(you do not have that choice with a hybrid). Replies to this message: backy (Dec 30, 2004 5:49 pm) falconone (Dec 30, 2004 6:18 pm) viet (Dec 30, 2004 7:19 pm)
#1780 of 3591 Re: Resale & Battery Lifespan [dewey] by backy Dec 30, 2004 (5:49 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Dec 30, 2004 5:10 pm) In future years, the novelty of hybrids will fade and so will the resale values.   I accept that as an opinion, but why should resale values fade in the future? Automakers are gearing up to build many more hybrid models in the next few years. With worldwide demand for oil increasing (a fact), long-term gas prices are not likely to decrease. Cars that use less gas should remain popular.   As for servicing, noted car experts Click & Clack have stated that there is little on a hybrid that cannot be serviced by a competent mechanic. They don't even think the regenerative brakes on hybrids are that special, service-wise. Sure, if there's a problem with the hybrid powertrain you'll want to take the car to the dealer. But for routine service, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to use a competent independent.
#1781 of 3591 Re: Resale & Battery Lifespan [dewey] by falconone Dec 30, 2004 (6:18 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Dec 30, 2004 5:10 pm) I doubt any novelty will wear off. I do think the novelty of standard ice engines will definitely be on the decrease. Hybrids... bring more of 'em on!! Replies to this message: viet (Dec 30, 2004 7:19 pm)
#1782 of 3591 Re: Resale & Battery Lifespan [falconone] by viet Dec 30, 2004 (7:19 pm)
Replying to: falconone (Dec 30, 2004 6:18 pm) Honda engineers mentioned that it was somewhat difficult to create and perfect the HAH. I greatly appreciate Honda engineers and the management who built the HAH, a so fine product, that I can buy with money. I love the highly sophisticated NAVI., 8 cup holders, 8 airbags, 2 cell phone chargers, 105K miles maintenance schedule, no spare tire, 255HP, 0 to 60 in 6.5 seconds, the decent MPG 30/38 plus, VCM, ICE, auto stop, 3 working engines on highway, and other electronic, electric and mechanical components of the HAH. Timing belt is to be replaced at 105K miles. I always have achieved MPG better than the sticker MPG.   Today, I drove my Accord 95 EX I4 to go to the movie with my out-state brother. That old Accord has been extremely dependent and loyal to me for so many years. Its color is fading a little bit but the it shows real strength and solidity with original engine, original transmission, leather seats and all other original components except the battery. Even the lights are original. It produces the strongest power of 145HP and its MPG is same like day one. That is one of the main reasons I trust and stick with Honda. I will begin my extensive research and comparison again in my next car purchase but I doubt that the other auto makers can easily beat Honda in producing powerful cars with great MPG, durability, comfort, reliability, creativity, innovation and Honda's competent leadership in automotive technology. I love the "VROOOOOM" of my regular V6 and the V6 hybrid any time I start up those powerful engines. My HAH digital MPG is always 30. Will track and calculate manual MPG.   To me, sometimes happiness may be just a few short hours sitting behind the wheels of my top Accords, the reliable, powerful and quiet "driving machines" to drive around running errands or do something. Today, I drove my old Accord with no NAVI. and I did get lost a little bit in the neighborhood towns. With my HAH's sophisticated NAVI. I have had no single chance to get lost. It is really my pure simple "hi tech" happiness. With my cell phone and the HAH I can drive anywhere until the..."Big MAMA" calls me home for...dinners.

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