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Toyota Camry, Sedan
Aug 04, 2004 (12:42 pm)
there was a 3.3L V6 in the XLE you saw ??? I thought Toyota would switch to the 3.3 later in the 05 model year with the LE/XLE (as soon as they ran out of the 3.0). If we decide to purchase the V6, I want to make sure we get the 3.3L if its available on the LE/XLE.
As Alpha stated above, I don't believe climate control is a deal-breaker, but its nice to have if you can get it.
Aug 04, 2004 (1:07 pm)
I am 99% SURE the XLE does NOT have the 3.3L engine. Id have to see it with my own eyes to beleive it, in fact. Toyota mentioned nothing of a switch in their official press release.
#290 of 307 Re: ? [alpha01]
Aug 04, 2004 (1:53 pm)
They may have been really been looking at an SE or there was a massive mistake at the Toyota factory either with the actual engine or just the engine cover labeled "3.3L."
Aug 04, 2004 (4:07 pm)
I saw a new Camry today and I really liked the grill. What was funny was that for some odd reason, we had the 1st, 2nd, 3rd (me), 4th, and the 5th generation ('05) all in one lane. Talk about coincidence. Even some owners took notice. Then I had my Camry next to her '05 Camry and what a difference 10 years make. I feel old now.
#292 of 307 too good to be true ?
Aug 04, 2004 (4:22 pm)
Its possible that a worker placed the wrong engine cover over the 3.0L engine (or the engine really is a 3.3L and the vehicle was released prematurely)
#293 of 307 LE vs. SE in ride quality?
Aug 04, 2004 (4:54 pm)
A few weeks ago I did back to back test drives of a 2004 Camry LE & '04 Accord LX -- both automatics. The main difference, most people agree, is in the ride, with the Camry being a softer ride. I plan to buy the '05 Camry in the next couple of months. I've not driven an SE, but am told is has a sportier suspension. Is it closer to the Accord than the Camry LE in this regard?... Or perhaps firmer even than the Accord?
Aug 04, 2004 (5:33 pm)
The suspension in the Camry SE is indeed much closer to that of the Accords, and offers greater surefootedness at the minimal cost (in my opinion) of a firmer, but not harsher, ride.
IMO, the Camry SE 4 and V6 (equipped with a few options) compare favorably to the Accord EXs.
#295 of 307 05 pluses and misses
Aug 05, 2004 (5:56 am)
From what i can see the 05 pluses are:
- ABS standard, about time
- 5 speed auto trans.,thank you Accord
- 1 mpg better
The misses are:
- Side curtains still an option, not good, always seem to be one year behind Accord.
- think they could have increased the mileage a bit more with a little extra tuning,and gone one up on the Accord.
- will SE models be more available
- will side curtains be more available
- will incentives be needed
Aug 05, 2004 (7:44 am)
The MPG on the automatics is up from 23/32 to 24/34, which is one better city and two highway.
Otherwise, nice assessment. There are a few other detail pluses that Im a big fan of, such as the center rear head restraint, the power lumbar support on LE grades (and up), and the new instrumentation and covered bin in center stack.
Aug 05, 2004 (1:34 pm)
Actually, power lumbar was added last year. The transmission on the 4-cyl is different from the 6-cyl. Steering wheel audio controls are standard across the board now, along with new steering wheel designs.
I think the availability of VSC and TRAC on the 4-cyl. is a good change also.