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Toyota Camry, Sedan
Aug 03, 2004 (5:50 pm)
2005s have steering wheel audio controls, including the Standard grade. Auto climate control is far from a deal breaker, if you ask me, but I agree- its the only feature/content issue that the SE faces.
#279 of 307 Re: ALL [alpha01]
Aug 03, 2004 (5:57 pm)
If I were to get one I would probably lean towards an XLE or SE with few options partly because the the LE is so generic, they are almost a commodity like pork bellies. Hertz buys Camry LEs by the trainload.
XLEs and SEs are hardly "rare," but at least you won't see a dozen exactly the same in the same row of the parking lot.
#280 of 307 I believe Hertz
Aug 03, 2004 (6:29 pm)
is starting to buy the Standard edition, fwiw, but I agree on your point regarding the SE and XLE. The XLE has a good deal of the market share in NJ, though, be it 4 or V6, I feel that a lot more Camrys this generation are XLEs.
#281 of 307 Re: sounds like you already made your decision [dolphin]
Aug 03, 2004 (7:16 pm)
My problem with the SE is that the sunroof is mandatory and I don't have enough headroom. I want the more powerful 3.3L engine but it is only available in the SE. It seems that nobody makes the perfect car. I might be forced to consider the Accord LX V-6 (I don't fit in the EX due to lack of headroom from the mandatory moonroof) even though it has ugly exterior styling.
I don't understand why Toyota continues to build the old 3.0L when they put the newer and much torquier 3.3 in so many other vehicles: Sienna, Highlander, Camry SE, ES330, RX330. Wouldn't it be more cost effective to kill the 3.0, especially if it's built on a different assembly line?
#282 of 307 2005 XLE I4
Aug 03, 2004 (7:32 pm)
Just a quick look through brochure for 2005 models, there is no XLE I4 is offered in Canada. I guess they could not sell many XLEs ...
Not sure that I like the new gauges, too generic.
The old design was quite different from anyone else: temperature gauge inside tach, gas gauge inside speedometer.
There is an A+ for new grill, it removes round feeling of the hood
#283 of 307 Re: sounds like you already made your decision [carman123]
Aug 04, 2004 (1:45 am)
The 3.3 is available in the XLE. I am 6'1" and had enough head room with the sunroof...
#284 of 307 Re: ALL [alpha01]
Aug 04, 2004 (1:48 am)
well then the sales guy here in Brandon FL doesn't know anything about these vehicles....not a small leap there! cannot get a brochure here yet, and the online one did not mention the audio controls on the SE.
#285 of 307 Re: sounds like you already made your decision [dolphin]
Aug 04, 2004 (6:06 am)
The 3.3 is available with the XLE? I hope you are correct, but toyota's website and my dealer say no. Will it be a late availability?
#286 of 307 Re: sounds like you already made your decision [carman123]
Aug 04, 2004 (7:27 am)
The 3.3 is on the SE only as shown on the Toyota web site and you can see by going to any Toyota dealership in the US.
#287 of 307 Re: sounds like you already made your decision [carman123]
Aug 04, 2004 (7:55 am)
Well, the sales guy opened the hood and there it was...3.3