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Toyota Camry, Sedan
Jul 27, 2004 (6:58 pm)
No, I dont think the manual figures are a misprint, and yes, the improved MPG figures are due to the 5 speed auto. The two transmissions (the 5M and 5A) are geared differently, which accounts for the slight difference in economy for the 4 cyl. 5M vs the 4 5A.
Side airbags and curtains have been offered since 2002, with or without moonroof, so thats not really a change. I have a friend whose parents purchased a 2003 XLE off the lot w/ curtains but no moonroof, for example.
Did you purchase?
Jul 27, 2004 (8:15 pm)
The EPA tests favor automatics, so a very efficient automatic can best a manual there, but probably won't in real driving. Still - that 34 ties the Accord.
#260 of 307 Re: xxon [alpha01]
Jul 28, 2004 (1:06 pm)
Thanks for the info. No I didn't buy, but I was impressed. I don't know if it was my imagination or not, but the vehicle looked more sporty than the 2004. Up to this point, I was only considering the Accord or the Passat TDI which are in the same size class, but had better gas mileage (the Passat TDI is in too short supply to make it affordable, however). Now, the Camry is giving them a good run for the money.
Jul 29, 2004 (6:03 am)
"Actually, the only Lexus that had the floating effect due to markings being projected onto the dashboard was the 1990-1992 LS400."
Didn't the 1993-94 LS400 also have the "floating" gauges like the 1990-92? My grandfather had both a 1990 and a 1993 and I could swear they had the same gauges (but I may be wrong).
#262 of 307 2005 Camry test drive
Aug 01, 2004 (10:21 am)
I took a brief spin in a 2005 Camry LE 5A yesterday, lasting about 7 miles.
-The new instrumentation is very impressive and much better looking than the outgoing presentation.
-The 5A is very responsive and the car felt fairly strong. But, in the ranges in which I tested it (nailed the go pedal from a start, from 30 to 50, and from 45 to 65), it felt about the same as the 2004. I was hoping it would feel a bit stronger. However, it should be noted that the version I drove was very green, with but 11 miles on the odometer, and was also PZEV, while our 2002 is ULEV.
-The black trim that surrounds the center stack is unfortunate and cheap looking, and offsets the upscale and pleasant change to chrome-looking door handles.
Aug 01, 2004 (11:39 am)
is the black trim exclusive to the LE (not the XLE) ? We plan to take a spin in the 05 XLE & LE V6 this week (if time allows).
#264 of 307 the only 2005s on the lot
Aug 01, 2004 (11:48 am)
Were LE 4 cylinders.
One thing I forgot: I like the new grille of the 2005 Camrys, but the the taillights have yet to grow on me. I still the Lunar Mist Metallic is a terrible color on this car. The new wheel covers are more attractive than the old Standard/LE ones, as well.
Aug 01, 2004 (12:22 pm)
yeah Alpha, I'm not crazy about the silver (or white for that matter). I'm not sure about the new color, mineral green. Based on the RX 300 which used to come in that color, it looks silver-gray with a hint of green. Red still appears to be No.1 on our list.
#266 of 307 crash test results
Aug 01, 2004 (9:10 pm)
Why have the Camry's crash test results gotten worse? I'm surprised that a large company like Toyota has not done more safety-wise to its bread and butter car, espcially when the Accord trounces it in both frontal and side crash results.
#267 of 307 Re: maxhonda99 [lenscap]
Aug 02, 2004 (8:16 am)
I believe in 93 they switched the gauges that got rid of the 3D effect. But I could be wrong. But they did definately get rid of it for 1995 and no other Lexus had that 3D effect.