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#4 of 13 Mazda/Ranger
Jan 21, 2004 (2:33 pm)
They are essentially the same vehicle, except for some interior and exterior trim... Ford owns some large percent of Mazda.
I don't know where the new (2001 and later OHC) 4L is built. The old (2000 and earlier OHV) 4L was built in Germany, which I always assumed was some kind of Ford owned plant. I have no idea about the 3L or the old and new 4 cylinder motors.
Have you looked at the government site, www.nhtsa.dot.gov , and all the recalls and consumer complaints for 2003 Rangers? If not, you should, and you should also go through the procedures to get your complain listed on this database.
In your dispute with Ford, did you ever involve the NHTSA (Nat Highway Transportation Savety Agency)?
And, if you got a new Truck from Ford, and within a couple of hundred miles it also experienced 'unintended acceleration', I would think you could own any vehicle you wish from Ford, up to and including a Jaguar.... For absolutely no additional money...
Jan 21, 2004 (2:50 pm)
I just looked at this government safety site.
There are no 'recalls' for 2003 Rangers.
There are no 'consumer complaints' for 2003 Rangers.
(For my 1994 Ranger, there are 2 or 3 recalls and over a hundred or two consumer complaints, if I remember correctly.)
I'm not a mechanic. But I think when a fuel injected engine is doing a 'cold start', the fuel injecters are open longer, possibly twice as long as compared to normal. This injectes additional gasoline, giving a richer mixture. This is fuel injection's way of getting a rich mixture for starting. A carborator choke closes off part of the air flow to get a rich mixture.
I doubt a failure into a 'cold start' injection mode would cause an increase to 4,000 rpm, it would probably cause a rough idle, smoke, and the motor might die.
Was the 'check engine' light ever lit in any of the unintended acceleration eposides????
#6 of 13 Revving problem /w Ranger
Jan 21, 2004 (4:35 pm)
No warning lights ever came on.
The XLT, these were both 6 Cyl., started this between 1500 and 2000 miles. I had no idea what was happening, I took it in at 2995 miles.
That was in Feb. 2003, took until Nov. to get to arbitration and a decision. I became pretty upset when it happend Dec. 31, demamnded to get out of it. The new 2003, Edge, was made as a settlement, with more equipment. It was never put in my name, delay of paper work. It belongs to the dealer. At this point, I am too "paranoid" about a Ranger, although I've always heard good things about them.
I'm considering an F-150 if Ford will do what's right. Working on it.
Thanks for replies.
#7 of 13 Revving problem w/ Ranger
Jan 21, 2004 (6:06 pm)
eji1928, do you 'brake' with your left foot?
#8 of 13 Revving Engine
Jan 22, 2004 (3:43 am)
I don't know how people drive that way.
If I did, ya think it would happen in other autos?
To repeat myself.....If I were on the accelerator,
I would have been in many a trunk.
These two autos revved like it was in park and accelerator was floored.
Don't ya hate it when someone is driving and their brake light is on constantly? Left foot on brake!
Jan 22, 2004 (10:24 am)
eji1928 Yes! I do hate it when people ride their brakes with their left foot!
I must say your revving engine is an odd (and dangerous) one. It seems highly unusual that you would have the same problem with TWO vehicals.
I remember a few years ago Audi had a similar problem with their cars accelerating without warning, however I don't recall what the cause was.
#10 of 13 Ranger.....AUDI?
Jan 22, 2004 (9:52 pm)
Owned a 1978 Audi. Never heard of that problem.
But that Audi purred.....when it wasn't in the shop. Junk at 36,000 miles.
This was before extended warranties.
I paid $9,800. Spent near $3,000+ in repairs after warranty. Needed $1,000 in repairs when I got rid of it, little more than 2 years old. Catalytic Converters shot. I didn't fight it, too expensive to maintain.
The two best autos I ever owned were both Ford Aerostars.
You know, the Ranger Edge I mentioned, it had 199 miles on it when I drove out, I had the incident in 26 miles that I drove. I may not have mentioned that after I eased into the other auto, after shifting into Park and exited, it was still revving a few more seconds.
I have the feeling that Ford thinks I'm a kook. I gave them a written statement but doubt if they take it off the market. I'm sure there are no reports on that particular truck. My old one has 10 records, on the internet. There were more.
Of course, I found the only two on the planet with that problem. Someone asked if I had contacted NHTSA. YEP, the first few incidents in 2003. Never had a reply.
Jan 23, 2004 (3:47 pm)
I've had my 2002 Ranger for almost two years and 25K miles. Never encountered ANY type of over-revving condition.
The "Check Engine" light came on last week and the dealer replaced some sort of EGR valve under warranty. That's the ONLY problem that has arisen. It does have a few squeaks & rattles though.
Jan 27, 2004 (9:18 pm)
___Your brand new 03 Ranger XLT’s brakes should easily overcome the engine irregardless if you believe the engine was over-revving or not. Secondly, were you born in 1928? Just because you were accident free for the last 1,000,000 miles doesn’t preclude age from having an effect on any of our almost automatic reactions or our usually safe and highly honed driving skills. It was one thing to say one Ranger has a problem similar to yours but two different Rangers? There are already millions of miles driven in the 03 Ranger and I have never heard of this happening with any one vehicle let alone 2 by the same driver? Even the rich mixture at initial start doesn’t fly … Every car I own does this when just stated and warming up. Afterwards, they settle in to the 750 – 900 RPM range normal idle.
___Wayne R. Gerdes
Jan 29, 2004 (1:42 pm)
I'm not saying that the problems with the Ranger are your fault, but after Audi's reputation was trashed by 60 minutes due to the "unintended acceleration" fiasco, it was later proved to be driver error associated with drivers hitting the wrong pedal.