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#445 of 600 Re: Need smart advice on which to buy [ttam22]
Feb 22, 2007 (1:29 pm)
I owned a V6 Touareg for almost 3 years and 50,000 miles and have driven several examples of X5 and FX. You should drive them as well. They are very different from each other. I presume you are buying used.
Ride: No comparison; VW wins. BMW is good, but a little busy, The FX rides like a lumberwagon - you feel every crack in the road.
Handling: BMW and FX are pretty similar, VW almost as good, but remember, it weighs at least 800 pounds more.
Brakes: All 3 feel similar
Comfort: VW and FX are excellent but very different, with BMW a little behind, unless the car has the comfort or sport seats.
Reliability: Basically, until this year, BMW was building the same car for six years. They got it pretty right from a reliability standpoint. A 2004-2006 might be a good option. That said, they pay for maintenance for 4 years, and they only get oil changes at about 12,000 mile intervals. I'm not impressed with leaving oil in that long, from a long term engine wear standpoint, particluarly for city cars. Apparently BMW is ok with it. When you are paying for maintenance on any of these cars, you will be shocked at what it costs. They are all excellent highway cruisers. The V8 is nice, but you do not need it unless you have a 23 foot Sea Ray bowrider following you. There is a definite gas mileage difference between the v6 and v8 versions of all of them. I understand the BMW v8 is a little better on gas than either the VW or FX V8's. When I bought my Touareg, the BMW and FX were my second and third choices. VW got first mainly because I go off-road alot and having a low range transfer case was important. If I did not have to go off road for work, I might have chosen the BMW first. Then the question became whether to get the X5 or X3. The X5 is a little tanky. Hard to describe as fun to drive. The X3 drives like a car and is a lot of fun to toss around. The ride isnt nearly as bad as the car mags make out, even with the sport package. The FX is a go cart. Not sure I could live with the ride or the obnoxious exhaust drone. Comfort, quality and features were first rate though.
#446 of 600 New Ones Any Better?
Feb 22, 2007 (7:42 pm)
Okay - so basically this is one of the worst new-car introductions in history - that much is clear. (In terms of the car actually working.) Like others I am sold on the feature set and performance characteristics. So, my question is this - have they or haven't they fixed most of the problems? Most people posting have 04s. Only one or two had an 06. What do people think about the 07s? Does the lack of posting problems with 06/07s mean they are better - or just that they have few/no miles on them yet?
I called the locak VW dealership and said that I was sold on the features/performance but how could anyone in their right mind buy one of these - and said I wanted to give him 5 minutes to do his sales thing and see if he could get me to budge - and he actually said something fairly interesting. He said when you get one, you don't necessarily drive it off the lot. Once you choose one, they apply what was at the time around 15 TSBs which can take a week or more, then you come pick it up. This was around 6 months ago. He said that as long as you have all the TSBs applied the car is doing quite well.
So what do people think - is it perhaps finally time to get one?
On the opposite side, the 08 Highlander looks like it is quite awesome despite not actually being an offroader. Might have to wait for that instead.
Looking at Consumer Reports repair history - and if we translate the black/red circles to numbers where 1 is really bad and 5 really good 04 has 10 1s, 3 2s, 0 3s, 1 4, and 1 5, the 05 has 5 1s, 4 2s, 3 3s, 1 4 and 3 5s, and the 06 has many 5s, and only 2 1s - but with the consumer reports defect reporting the newer models always fair a lot better - basically not enough data yet. It doesn't mean the car is better.
Anyway I'd love to get one but am scared it won't work...
#447 of 600 Re: New Ones Any Better? [lightminer]
Feb 27, 2007 (6:36 pm)
I have an 04 so you don't want to talk to me. I have driven close to 1.5 million miles in the last 38 years in Jeep Wagoneers, Pioneers, Grand Cherokee, GMC, Ford Explorers all domestic except for the VW Touareg. Despite the engineered defects, I have to admit that the Touareg has the best ride, comfort, handling and is the best in the snow and ice. My v6 is weak and it hesitates upon acceleration. Probably my biggest complaint is VW service in general. It is expensive, they do not stock parts, the car is so technical that many dealers do not have sufficient knowledge in my opinion therefore, the repair time is long and for a luxury SUV they do not provide a loaner car and if you are in as many times as I am in a year the car rental adds up. I live 50 miles from the dealer so it is also inconvenient. My mileage is 15 mpg at best and they all use premium gas. I like the car but for the price tag, the high maintenance and the inconvenience we most likely will go to the Lexus next purchase.
Feb 28, 2007 (8:10 am)
Hello Touareg owners: I am leasing a 2005 Touareg from VW. This past 2 months I have had it in the shop several times. It started with requesting a simple required yearly inspection. At that time there were 5 recalled items or events that where going to also be addressed. Since that time the vehicle randomly will not start, it only "clicks" one time when key is turned but all the lights, bells, whistles and automatic adjustments do their thing! VW was unable to "recreate: the event in their shop so they said they could not fix it if "it aint broke". I had to get towed in again last night. I not longer feel safe in this vehicle. Any similar events out there?
#449 of 600 Re: Touareg won't start! [vdubinvabeach]
Feb 28, 2007 (6:00 pm)
My 04 randomly does this at the first turn of the key but then starts on the second attempt. I have had no luck on repair. The last recall fixed many of our problems from airbag lights to crabbing when you turn. Many of the systems are interrelated. I get water in my tail light and at times has caused the engine to run erradic, head lamps go out, blinkers go nuts all from a corroded connection. VW will not fix this problem because they consider tail lights an accessory. It is a safety issue when you have no lights at night. Sorry but I don't have a fix.
#450 of 600 Where to get good maintainance/repair info, DVD, good book ...
Mar 07, 2007 (5:53 am)
As the title says. I like to do all my own maintainance, troubleshooting, and repairs. Would like to know where to get the best information. Is there a service manual or DVD available?
Just got rid our Volvo XC90, got a 2004 V8, NAV, Air suspension, every option available for 2004 (short the V10 even though I'm a diesel guy). This thing is so cool to drive
#451 of 600 Re: 'Chrome' discoloration and Noise on 2005 V6 [mojopin]
Mar 08, 2007 (4:41 pm)
Same issue on the "yodeling" although the noise I hear is more or a prolonged squeal. It only happens after applying the brakes and while going slow. Does anyone know the source of this problem? The dealer can't seem to figure it out.
#452 of 600 Re: 'Chrome' discoloration and Noise on 2005 V6 [brady11]
Mar 08, 2007 (6:13 pm)
I have an 04 V6 that squealed so loud that it was embarrassing to drive. It reminded me of when the CV joint in my old Jeep Grand Wagoneer was going out. Dealer found that the carrier bearing needed to be replaced. Cost was $3,000. This may not be the problem but it sure sounds very similar. Good Luck.
#453 of 600 Re: Problems with hard downshifting in V6 [wmdavis1949]
Mar 11, 2007 (7:25 am)
I have the same issue when my 2004 V6 downshifts to 1st gear after coming off an exit or after driving at a high rate of speed (65-80) and having to stop suddenly. If you stop slowly it does not occur.
Dealership did 2 software upgrades and still not fixed, of course I could not replicate with tech in the car.
Has VW acknowledged this issue and resolved?
scmiles at hotmail.com
#454 of 600 Re: Where to get good maintainance/repair info, DVD, good book ... [whoisbigman]
Mar 13, 2007 (5:00 pm)
If your car is under warranty you would be foolish to touch it. VW will not honor warranty if they can find an excuse. You must be very good as the T-Reg is not your fathers 1966 VW Bug. If you are new to the T-Reg, try changing out the headlight bulb and that may give you some indication of the complexity of this car.