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#143 of 600 Re: Navigation [spockcat]
Aug 26, 2004 (2:03 am)
Any word on an update to a DVD based nav system for the Touareg?
We are adding the Touareg to our shopping list because my wife really likes the exterior look and thinks she may be willing to give up the 7+ passenger seating of the others we are looking at (Pilot/MDX, XC90, GX470).
However, we would like to get a navigation system and are spoiled by the one in my 2004 Acura TL (8" screen, voice activates, DVD based). Am I going to be dissapointed with the VW system? The two Touaregs we have looked at didn't have nav.
Also, is there a difference between the Touareg nav and the one used in the Cayanne, or are they virtually the same?
#144 of 600 Speedometer error
Aug 26, 2004 (12:56 pm)
I got a new Touareg last week. There are no aftermarket tires or wheels. Stock. Right away it was very obvious that the speedometer was reading about 5-6mph fast at highway speeds. I've checked it against 3 other vehicles and a radar gun used by our security patrol co. in our community. It's been back to the dealership 3 times now. First two times they didn't look at it. This time they say they can't find a noticable difference. They only checked it at low speeds. It's a little harder to tell at low speed and the difference is less (about 3-4mph at 25mph). I just got off the phone with the service manager. Told him to take it out on the highway, check it out and, call me back. Haven't heard from him yet.Anyone else had this problem?
#145 of 600 Re: Speedometer error [thedoctor]
Aug 26, 2004 (4:30 pm)
I believe that it is fairly common to have a vehicle speedometer read a bit high when you are traveling over 45 mph. I don't know the actual reason for it but my guess is that it gives the driver the feeling that he is actually traveling at 5 mph over the posted speed limit when in reality he is doing only 1 mph over the speed limit. Of course, this is just my opinion.
#146 of 600 Re: Speedometer error [big_guy]
Aug 26, 2004 (5:29 pm)
Please don't take any offense but, that is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. Can you imagine the problems (law suits) a manufacturer would bring upon themselves if they intentionally distorted their speedometers readings? I'm kind of an anal guy about these kinds of things and I've never owned a car with an inaccurate speedometer unless it was made so by a gear or tire size change. Anyway, I've checked it again with 2 more different vehicles, a new Cady SUV and my neighbors Ford Expedition. Both show my speedometer as being wrong. So, where do I go from here? VW of America customer service?
#147 of 600 Re: Speedometer error [thedoctor]
Aug 27, 2004 (12:14 am)
I've checked my various speedometers over the years with both a stopwatch on highways with mile markers and with my laptop computer with a GPS attachment.
I have found:
1995 Maxima SE: Actual speed 65.0, indicated speed 69-70.
1996 Isuzu Trooper: Actual speed 65.0, indicated speed 66.
2002 Honda S2000: Actual speed 65.0, indicated speed 65 (digital).
2004 Acura TL: Actual speed 65.0, indicated speed 67-68.
I don't think there is much recourse for anything that is within 5 mph. Although it is disturbing that, given the components that can be manufactured to tolerances of 1/1000 of an inch., the speedometers can be off by 5-7%.
Aug 27, 2004 (4:45 am)
Thanks for your reply spockcat. I used navigation systems before, and had a more accurate map(Mercedes Benz) I can't recall the name of the software manufacturer. The problem with the VW system is that they advertise it as being capable to bring you to any point in the country, and here I am driving through cities and the navigation system tells me that I am off-roading!
I did not buy the system from NAVETEQ, but from Volkswagen, they in turn have a contract with the software supplier, and VW is my sales agent!
If I buy a computer with pre-loaded software, Microsoft tells me that the computer manufacturer is responsible for the software, and not Microsoft. The same applies for VW. I do not see any reason that I have to buy new software because VW delivered the system with inadequate software. The minimum I expect from VW is a new set of CD's for FREE once they become available!
I paid way over $40,000 for this vehicle and expect it to be flawless, or, if that cannot be achieved, I want VW taking care of this without me having to fight them every inch of the way to an appropriate performance!
Concerning thedoctor's question on speedometer accuracy, the EU directives allow a deviation of 3-4 miles and North America (US and Canada) say it shall not deviate by more than 10% from the actual speed.
#149 of 600 Dashboard Light Show
Aug 27, 2004 (4:46 am)
Here's a new one... Driving home from work in my Red Treg when out of no where, i hear a loud beeeeeeep, then everything and I mean everything on my dashboard starts flashing. "Brakes, Cruise, ABS, MFI disappeared, etc...". It's almost like a laser light show. Start smelling some plastic burning. Pulled over and everything under the hood looked okay. Made it home and checked all the fuses and they seemed okay. Wipers no longer work. I think one of the circuit boards got fried. Bringing it in Monday for service. In the mean time I'll enjoy the light show on my dashboard. One good thing, the seat belt, door open, lights on alarms aren't working. Just hope it doesn't rain this weekend.
#150 of 600 Re: Speedometer error [thedoctor]
Aug 27, 2004 (8:46 am)
My Touareg speedo is optimistic as well. I'm glad I didn't lease it. My informal measurements indicate it's high by about 5 to 7 percent. It's low on my worry list though. I got tagged for only 79 in a 65 when I thought I was going to get the big ticket. I suspect VW knows all about it and there's a Technical Service Bulletin for this. For further information, you might try another forum that has the company initials and something about the middle of a hurricane, if you know what I mean.
#151 of 600 Re: Speedometer error [habitat1]
Sep 01, 2004 (8:29 am)
Thanks for the reply. I'm going out today with a GPS. I really wouldn't be so bothered by this if it weren't for the mileage restriction on my lease. At the error rate I believe the speedo has, assuming we drive 3hrs. a day, at the end of my lease, the car could show 18,900 mi. more than it has actually been driven. And guess who would pay for that?
#152 of 600 Re: Dashboard Light Show [gerrrr]
Sep 02, 2004 (4:45 am)
Well, brough the Treg in to find out what the light show was all a bout. They said they did all kinds of test and found nothing. Told me everything was working fine. Go figure. When I dropped it off, the lights no longer flashed, but the speedometer read 60mph and that was sitting still. Gas gauge was pointing at the little icon. Tech said maybe something (plastic) flew into the engine while I was driving causing the burning plastic smell and distrubing the electronics, hence the light show and gauges gone wild. Anyway, everything is back to normal. Think I would have felt better if they actually had a rational explanation for the whole adventure.