Last post on Nov 04, 2013 at 9:51 AM
You are in the Honda Ridgeline
What is this discussion about?
Honda Ridgeline, Truck, SUV
#849 of 2746 Re: Mileage [qbrozen]
Mar 23, 2005 (11:11 am)
not blaming Honda, just disappointed. Honda obviously wanted to juice up this vehicle so that it would compete with the big boys. It is all marketing. Honda can make an efficient Ridgeline (and probably will, since this is their bread and butter reputation) but choose not to. The downside is they get criticized for hogging gas.
Every vehicle made is slightly different, so we will never have apples to apples. You ask for a comparable vehicle, and I gave you a couple examples of what compares the most right now: the Subaru Baja and the '07 Sportrac.
In my opinion, the IRS and AWD are what separates out this class. The Taco and Frontier are disqualified because of lack of IRS and AWD systems. The Baja concept is a great idea but Subaru missed the market by not making the cab and bed size adequate. Since I drive an '03 Forester with the same engine and get 27 to 28 mpg, I know the Baja can do the same. Furthermore, the Baja Turbo could run rings around the Ridgeline and still get 24 mpg.
There isn't going to be a direct comparison yet. But in 2007, I think there will be more options, and Honda will need to be stepping up to the plate with their own improved version.
#850 of 2746 Re: Mileage [once_for_all]
Mar 23, 2005 (12:03 pm)
There are others that compare more directly. The Baja is not even close in size.
The current SportTrac is very close, but you do realize it gets even worse mileage than the Ridgeline, right? Of course, neither of us can speak to the '07 yet.
The Tacoma 4-door, as some others have pointed out, is a decent comparison. But even with its lighter weight, it still only gets 1 mpg better city mileage and the same as the ridgeline on the highway.
Frontier 4-door is also pretty close, and, once again, gets worse mileage than the ridgeline.
From what I can see, based on the current market, the Ridgeline is right on target.
By the by, I'm shocked at your Forester numbers. They must have made some great improvements since we were never able to top 23 mpg in ours - which is the vehicle we traded in on the Pilot, hence our complete satisfaction with getting 20-21 in a MUCH larger and MUCH more powerful vehicle.
#851 of 2746 more than mileage does a truck make
Mar 23, 2005 (12:35 pm)
somthing that i dont see here being considered, is that if you plan to do ANY regular hauling or carrying of stuff in the bed, you may want to consider a different truck, aside from an unprooven track record in the truck manufacturing market, Honda dosent really look at this as a work truck, just look at the height of the bed sils, they're higher than the new f-15o, thus much harder to put things in or get them out, also the area where teh bed meets the cab is not level making it odd, if not impossible to put a toolbox on, and lets face it, if you're not buying it for it utility AS a truck, you're buying it for vanity, poseurs should drive somthing else.
#852 of 2746 Re: more than mileage does a truck make [d3coy]
Mar 23, 2005 (1:11 pm)
and lets face it, if you're not buying it for it utility AS a truck, you're buying it for vanity, poseurs should drive somthing else.
Oh that's rich. If it wasn't for "poseurs" and their "trucks", the market for pickups would be around 25% of what it is.
Mar 23, 2005 (8:25 am)
I drive a ‘04 Dodge Quad Cab 1500 (not a HEMI) and I am looking at the Ridgeline for the fuel economy. What kind of MPG can I look forward to? I have about a 60 mile round trip highway commute and currently I get 14.7 avg MPG. Unfortunately I am 6'3" and I do not fit in cars so a truck is my only alternative. What kind of mileage are you all getting?
Mar 23, 2005 (8:50 am)
see the main Ridgeline forum, there is lots of discussion (and speculation) there. We only have 4 tanks reported, 3 were around 16 mpg and 1 was at 17.6.
I am 6'3" too and the Ridge would be perfect, but I am doing a wait and see because of the mpg issues.
#855 of 2746 Re: MPG [golfboy1]
Mar 23, 2005 (9:04 am)
"Unfortunately I am 6'3" and I do not fit in cars so a truck is my only alternative."
I'm 6'4"/200 lbs, and fit in a Civic.
Mar 23, 2005 (9:03 am)
I have had my RTS one week and filled up once. Got 16 mpg in mostly city driving. I am 6'2" and this truck is perfect. Plenty of headroom and legroom.
#857 of 2746 Re: Mileage [qbrozen]
Mar 23, 2005 (1:47 pm)
we disagree I think on the major upgrades the Ridgeline has made.
Simply, it has introduced carlike ride, handling, and AWD into the truck market. It did this with the independent rear suspension.
None of the others can make that claim. The Taco, Frontier, Avalanche, Sport Trac, etc. all fall short. Very short.
Only the Baja has these similar features. Only the 2007 Sport Trac is on the horizon.
The Ridgleline has a MAJOR opportunity to capitalize on what it is. But, they are trying to play too much truck with the juiced up engine. Fuel economy (and lack thereof) is going to hurt sales.
BTW, the current generation Forester is rated at 30 mpg highway, 2 more than the '03 I have.
#858 of 2746 Re: Mileage [once_for_all]
Mar 23, 2005 (2:10 pm)
Oh, I agree that nothing on the market right now is a direct comparison ... but those are as close as you can get. The Baja may have similar goals, but the size just makes it an outlandish comparison.
I don't necessarily agree that fuel economy will hurt sales. Plenty of vehicles with worse mileage sell like hotcakes.