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#53 of 226 SLK versus Z4 by mikestevens Apr 30, 2005 (5:40 am)
I 've looked at both the Z4 and the SLK 350. Clearly the SLK wins out on interior trim and of course, the retractable hardtop is a compelling feature, particularly since I live in the snow belt. But I'm still surprised by how wide the price differential has gotten on these models- given MB's reliability issues, do you think the SLK is worth 10K+ more than the Z4 3.0? Replies to this message: stroudman (Apr 30, 2005 6:45 am) habitat1 (Apr 30, 2005 6:47 am) mikestevens (Apr 30, 2005 10:19 am)
#54 of 226 Re: Love this car!! Oil sensor problem, though [pfeiffer] by habitat1 Apr 30, 2005 (6:34 am)
Replying to: pfeiffer (Apr 29, 2005 10:00 am) A few questions:   What was the actual invoice on the car you purchased? Why did you order the Consumer Reports price guide - Edmunds has complete invoice pricing for free at this website?   According to Mercedes website, it appears that the lighting package is not avialable with the AMG sport package?   Was your car brand new (i.e. less than 5 miles on odometer) or did it have some test drive miles?   Thanks. Replies to this message: Sylvia (Apr 30, 2005 2:17 pm) pfeiffer (May 27, 2005 6:21 pm)
#55 of 226 Re: SLK versus Z4 [mikestevens] by stroudman Apr 30, 2005 (6:45 am)
Replying to: mikestevens (Apr 30, 2005 5:40 am) Yes it is, absolutely! For one, the Z is built stateside, so there aren't any tarif-type/exchange rate costs built into the MSRP, which the German built SLK does, unfortunately. But in addition to the points you made about the top, trim, and layout, is the overall quality. I have traded people out of year old or so Z4's with anywhere from 1,000 to 12K miles on them, and they're just coming apart inside. A deal can definitely be had on one, they are cold, and getting colder, but I think you'll have more fun and better resale from the SLK, if it suits your budget.
#56 of 226 Re: SLK versus Z4 [mikestevens] by habitat1 Apr 30, 2005 (6:47 am)
Replying to: mikestevens (Apr 30, 2005 5:40 am) In my opinion, the Z4 isn't worth $10k more than the Honda S2000.   I am looking at the SLK350, Boxster S, 911 S Convertible and a couple of others. But having owned a 2002 Honda S2000 for 2.5 years, I do not see any appeal to the Z4. It's not as performance oriented (or well built) as the Honda, nor as civilized (or well built) as the SLK.   Don't get me wrong, I am generally a BMW fan. I think the new 2006 330i will be a hit and the 530i/545i are the best handling sedans at almost any price. But the same low rpm engine that is perfect for the 3 series and 5-series (and even the X5) is pretty boring in the Z4. And the car feels way too heavy for it's size compared with the nimble S2000 or even the larger Boxster S. If the price of a Z4 3.0 was $30k, it wouldn't find its way into my garage. Replies to this message: mikestevens (Apr 30, 2005 10:19 am)
#57 of 226 Re: SLK versus Z4 [habitat1] by mikestevens Apr 30, 2005 (10:19 am)
Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 30, 2005 6:47 am) Well that certainly explains why they're are so many of them available, and at serious discounts. As far as the SLK goes, I'm just concerned about the reliability problems that have plagued the E series, and whether similar issues will begin popping up with the SLK. OTOH, the reviews I've read have been glowing.
#58 of 226 SLK vs. Z4 by merc1 Apr 30, 2005 (10:27 am)
Yeah when the new SLK appeared Z4 sales tanked big time. I'm not sure if they've recovered or not, but this is a rare instance in which BMW was really caught out bad by a new Benz product that is built better, more powerful, and even handles as good or better (depending on the source). Also for some reason BMW doesn't seem to see a point in doing another M Roadster to combat the awesome SLK55 AMG. You just know a facelift is coming for the Z4 and I bet an Motorsport model.   M
#59 of 226 Re: Love this car!! Oil sensor problem, though [habitat1] by Sylvia STAFF Apr 30, 2005 (2:17 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 30, 2005 6:34 am) Yes - we have free pricing info on the site: Invoice, MSRP, TMV (True Market Value) which is "average" price being paid in your region for the vehicle specified.   Click on the Edmunds.com link at the top of the page > New Cars tab and navigate from there.
#60 of 226 Re: 2005 SLK 55 AMG Owners... [merc1] by amgnut May 01, 2005 (9:46 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Apr 29, 2005 12:54 am) I didn't see the C&D review of the SLK 55 AMG, although the ride may be slightly stiff - it takes a pretty bad road before I get irritated. The ride is really quite good compared to other cars in its class, but not Sedan like.   Jolting through deceleration in a misnomer. The 7sp really responds more like a stick, during deceleration and the subsequent downshift, engine compression slows the car very quickly (i.e. like a stick). The solution is come off the accelerator slowly, and be ready to throttle up (even when slowing). In fact the most common comment from friends who have driven my car is the way the transmission responds like a stick. It will catch you off guard for the first drive.   After my 800 mile tranny trouble I have been problem free. I will be scheduling my first service in the next couple weeks.   Mileage? I can still get 20+ on my San Diego trips, but now that I'm over 1000 miles and broken in I've been down to 13 - 14 mph in town, in manual or sport mode and really testing my 0 - 50 from light to light. It’s hard to keep the mileage that low, because I really have to drive like an ass. 16 around town would be a closer average. Overall I think the mileage is great for 2 reasons. (1) - I mostly have trucks, and I'm getting better mileage & (2) - 20 mpg from 355HP, I can't complain, I didn't want a Metro. Replies to this message: merc1 (May 01, 2005 8:59 pm) amgnut (May 02, 2005 4:34 pm)
#61 of 226 Re: 2005 SLK 55 AMG Owners... [amgnut] by merc1 May 01, 2005 (8:59 pm)
Replying to: amgnut (May 01, 2005 9:46 am) Thanks for the response. How many total miles do you have now?   M Replies to this message: amgnut (May 02, 2005 4:34 pm)
#62 of 226 Re: 2005 SLK 55 AMG Owners... [merc1] by amgnut May 02, 2005 (4:34 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (May 01, 2005 8:59 pm) 1800 miles - first service recommended between 1000 to 3000.

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