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#344 of 380 Re: 2008 Mark LT [asaro]
Sep 24, 2008 (5:23 am)
You are very, very deluded for such a nice guy. Fortunately, this is not something that matters.
If you were informed as you claim and if you paid real attention to the details, you would not be claiming so many things that are simply not true. In fact, more people buy the upper end F150s (which can cost $46K) than ever bought the Lincoln F150 (which DOES have the exact same engine, hp, transmission, switchgear, etc.). Keep asserting your delusion that it is different. At least you will believe it.
Furthermore, to counter your wild claim that people will not buy an expensive F150, Ford has found few buyers for the ersatz Lincoln pickup, but the King Ranch F150 has done just fine, as expensive as it is. Thus, the Lincoln truck is cancelled and Ford has added another luxury F150, the Platinum edition, for 2009. It starts in the 40K range and can easily go well into the 50K price range. I know that probably raises your blood pressure some more, but that is the way it is.
#345 of 380 Re: 2008 Mark LT [asaro]
Sep 24, 2008 (7:29 am)
You need to go to the French Quarter and drink heavily
I love New Orleans and I will take your advice the next time I am there. By the way, was it after taking your own advice that you concluded that the LT has superior suspension quality and premium motor parts compared to an F150?
#346 of 380 Re: 2008 Mark LT [asaro]
Sep 24, 2008 (8:22 am)
BTW, I do hope to drink heavily in NO after the Feb 1 marathon.
I note this from right here on Edmunds:
The Lincoln offers a lot of luxury for the money, but it doesn't take much scrutiny to realize that the LT has but one degree of separation from the F-150. Disappointingly, the LT has the same basic interior design and hard plastic interior panels, and doesn't really offer any features that you can't get on the Ford. Look at an F-150 King Ranch and you'll be looking at pretty much the same truck.
In this ultra-niche segment, the 2008 Lincoln Mark LT faces just one direct competitor, the Cadillac Escalade EXT. And the Caddy, due to its superior performance (0-60 a full 3 seconds quicker), more refined cabin and greater functionality, is easily the better luxury pickup truck. If, by chance, you find yourself choosing the Mark LT, you'll likely want to make your purchase this year -- it's expected that Lincoln will discontinue the truck after 2008 due to slow sales.
Anyway, the King Ranch and LT are built on the same assembly line. The LT gets some Lincoln badges and chrome and slightly different seats.
You may have it all together in NO--that's fine with me--but the high end F150s already far outsell the LT. Do your own homework for a change, have it corrected, and try to base it on something more than vapor, emotion and a good night on Bourbon St. It's ok you bought an LT and that you really like it, and that you have strong opinions. But facts are facts and the LT has done dismally in the marketplace. The marketplace Has spoken.
#347 of 380 Re: 2008 Mark LT [gregg_vw]
Sep 24, 2008 (6:03 pm)
The King Ranch sold because it was marketed correctly ! It is not a luxury truck, it is an upgraded work truck that is targeted at construction service business owners. That is why it did well ! Now if you would drink a couple of New Orleans Hurricanes that are very good, you can think straight. King Ranch is not a luxury truck, the LT is. The F-150 Platinum sales will fall a little short below the LT. Allowing the LT to return in 2011. Remember we are talking about two different animals ! The LT is the steak and potatoes and the F-150 a good truck, but is hot dogs and apple pie ! Or like what we say in New Orleans, Woooooo those osyters and crawfish are good shar....Have a good day sir.
#348 of 380 Re: 2008 Mark LT [gregg_vw]
Sep 24, 2008 (6:19 pm)
Sir I would not put alot weight into the Edmunds article, it is not supported by industry facts. Some writers are bias and are motivated by other missions geared to various industries. You need to drink more wine ! Thank You sir
#349 of 380 Re: 2008 Mark LT [asaro]
Sep 25, 2008 (5:24 am)
And you obviously can't see the forest for the trees. So ok, have it your way. The LT and King Ranch are different animals. And the LT is coming back in 2011. Right.
#350 of 380 Re: 2008 Mark LT [asaro]
by KCRam@Edmunds HOST
Sep 25, 2008 (4:08 pm)
The F-150 Platinum sales will fall a little short below the LT.
Last month, the Mark LT sold exactly 562 units. Even the Nissan Titan sold 10 times as many (5871). In fact, that Titan sales for August 08 are larger than the Mark LT sales for the first 8 months of 2007 (5858) and almost double the Mark LT's total for 2008 (3276).
Chevy sold 55,765 Silverados in August 2008... nearly 100x more than the LT.
asaro, there's nothing wrong with being a fan of any given vehicle. But those hard numbers tell the story. Unless you're in upper management at Ford, your statements are speculation at best. And those Mark LT sales numbers come directly from Ford.
kcram - Pickups Host
#351 of 380 Re: 2008 Mark LT [kcram]
Sep 26, 2008 (5:24 am)
Automotive News, a trusted industry source of information (certainly more so than Motor Trend and Consumer Reports...which by the way do NOT agree that the Ford F150 and Lincoln F150 are different animals, but I digress) reported on the LT's demise over a year ago.
It's deja vu all over again.
Automotive News is reporting that Lincoln will soon end production of the Mark LT pickup, based on the Ford F-150 half-ton.
This is the second high end hauler to not find success under Ford Motor Company's luxury brand. The first was the unique Lincoln Blackwood pickup that never caught on with buyers and was dropped in 2002.
Small consolation, but the Mark LT did beat the Blackwood's sales goals, which were 10,000 units per year. Mark LT sold a peak volume of 12,753 trucks in 2006.
The Mark LT originally debuted at the 2004 North American International Auto Show and went on sale in 2005 as a 2006 model.
Automotive News is also reporting that the reengineered 2009 Ford F-150 will move upmarket to fill the Mark LT's void with a new 'Platinum' trim level.
#352 of 380 Re: 2008 Mark LT [kcram]
Sep 26, 2008 (8:55 am)
Ok Kcram I think you and gregg need to travel to New Orleans and have numerous Hurricane Drinks ! So you can get your infromation straight about the automotive world ! You are misguided and read information that is bias, and stats that do not support Lincoln-Ford industry data. First of all Lincoln-Ford is not going to release their raw data that is true and correct to newspapers and media staff agents. Those numbers you quoted about the LT must have sold alot of magazines to the so called spy information people. If you really believe that LT sold 562 units, I have Interstate-10 I would like to sell you in Louisiana. You cannot go by the stats you quoted that you think are gospel. You have to look through the clouds sir. The LT is taking a political hit within the Lincoln-Ford company. Have you and the other brain surgeon gregg ever heard of COOKING THE BOOKS ! ALOT OF COOKING TOOK PLACE ! Sorry about being direct, but sometimes you have too. If they say the Lincoln LT did not have the right sales, why in the WORLD PEOPLE WOULD BUY A LUXURY FORD F-150. The LT is simply taking a break for political reasons in the corporate world. The LT and the F150 are two different animals. So when you research you have to look at the politics in each situation and use common sense. Sir have a great DAY ! The Lincoln LT will be back in 2011
#353 of 380 Re: 2008 Mark LT [gregg_vw]
Sep 26, 2008 (9:21 am)
Read my reply to Kcram ! Have a great day