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#2029 of 2122 06 NISMO experience... Nissan Corporate Response
Nov 19, 2008 (7:01 am)
I emailed Nissan yesterday. Same canned BS response as the previous time. I've cut and pasted here so all experience the warm and fuzzy feeling. I deleted the case number just to cover my butt.
Thank you for your recent correspondence to Nissan North America, Inc. and allowing us the opportunity to be of assistance.
We are sorry to hear of the concerns you have regarding the quality and design of your 2006 Nissan Frontier. Nissan is committed to designing and building vehicles that incorporate our customers' needs for styling, performance, quality and safety.
To set your mind at ease, file # ^^^^^^^^ has been created to document your concern. Your comments are appreciated, as they will help us improve our level of service. Your satisfaction with your vehicle is our primary concern.
We apologize for any inconveniences you may have encountered with your vehicle. If you have any further comments or concerns, please feel free to contact our Consumer Affairs department at 1-800-647-7261.
Thank you for allowing me to be of assistance.
Nissan North America, Inc.
Is that great or what?! Nissan Sucks.
#2030 of 2122 Re: 06 NISMO experience... Nissan Corporate Response [rimcut1]
Nov 20, 2008 (10:17 am)
Just as an FYI, I noticed you said you've been e-mailing them. I called and wrote a letter which I had delivery confirmation put on. The phone call didn't work, but the letter got attention, especially since my truck was back in the shop again after I mailed the letter.
Also to the happy NISMO owner I'd be curious about the mileage on your truck. Mine is at 80K and rimcut1's sounds about the same as mine. Because I loved mine for about the first 30K or so.
#2031 of 2122 06 Nismo Experience.... continued
Nov 20, 2008 (3:31 pm)
Well, picked up my truck today at about 10:15 this morning. I know you folks are going to laugh, and most likely call me an idiot, but damn I love this truck! I was so happy to get my butt back in my truck. Still hate freaking Nissan, but I cannot help it, I like my Nismo. I know I know....... I'm wondering about myself as well.
That said, dealer feels bad for me even if corporate doesn't give a crap. Only charged me $95 even though they had many hours in it. I was very appreciative of their attitude. So, rolled out at about 10:15, ran by the house to load all of my work crap back into it (30 minutes after unloading all of that crap from the Dodge rental) and hit the road to continue my work day. Loved having my Nismo back under my butt. Now...... 88 miles and about five hours later, cruising down the interstate at about 70mph....... you guessed it............ freaking "Diff Lock" light and the "VDC off" light came back on!!!!! Within a few more miles all the remaining freaking lights came on!!!!! SSDD. Just &%$# me why don't ya.
Yea, called the dealer. The service writer asked me to drive it tomorrow and call him later in the day to give him an update. If it's still doing it drive it through the weekend. SSDD, then back to the shop next week. His reasoning, "after what we did the system may still be resetting itself." I hate to talk junk about the dealer as I've been happy with them, but that reasoning sounds bogus to me. Since the "Diff Lock Position Switch" (per the repair order) is what had the initial fault code, I'd say just replace the %$#& thing.
So, I've been sitting here the last half hour or so reviewing my Frontier electronic service manual. (I bought it after the wheel seal episode.) I've now printed off about 30 pages of "M226 with locking differential" troubleshooting/repair information to read at my leisure. I can already see one big problem though.... most of this junk requires the "Consult-II" diagnostic computer, aka dealerships high dollar toy. I'm hoping to simply order and replace the Diff Lock Position Switch myself rather than fight the aggravation of visiting the dealership yet again.
One humorous bit, as I was turning in the Dodge P.O.S. this morning the guy totaling my bill asked me what Nissan I had. I replied "Frontier." He asked, "which one?" I said "Nismo." He said "Cool! I've been sort of thinking about buying a Frontier. How do you like it?" I deadpanned, "It's a total P.O.S." Then briefly recapped my service history/mileage etc. He looked at me and said, "you know, I've had quite a few guys come through here and tell me that about the Frontier. Maybe I need to think Toyota." I advised him to do so. You know, if Nissan corporate gave a crap I would not trash my truck to people. I would simply figure that I got the one in a million bad one. But since corporate doesn't care.... I don't care. If I can cost them even one sale I am happy.
05nismo6.... I hear ya about the letter. Last go round I did get some response. I hammered them so badly with a couple of emails that some gubberhead tried for five days to run me down. We played phone tag continually. He finally caught me one day, so I proceeded to run though the whole experience. Total and complete waist of my time. They simply wanted to let me vent to a person. I wanted reimbursement for the wheel seal. "Ain't happening." So, we hung up with two end results. On his end, he marked my file "case closed." On my end I simply told myself "Those $#%*&^ really do not care!"
And the nightmare continues.....
#2032 of 2122 Fuel Level Sensor
Jan 20, 2009 (7:32 am)
I have my 2005 Frontier SE four wheel for almost three and half years. A few days ago, I found the engine service light was on and I had Nissan dealer at Richardson, Texas checked. The report says the fuel level sensor is bad (code P0463)and needs to be changed. The dealer charged me $101 for inspection and otherl cost is around $600 if the sensor get fixed. I cannot believe the truck has this problem with only 42,000 miles and I drive it mildly...
Any thoughts and suggestion?
Appreciate your responses!
#2033 of 2122 Re: Fuel Level Sensor [lhuang]
Jan 20, 2009 (7:53 am)
I have the same problem. Only to make mine even better, because the sensor is bad the gas gauge has no idea when the tank is full or empty. I've decided not to fix mine right now, but I was quoted $479 to do so, because like any other day it's not the only thing wrong with the truck. It also needs a new radiator, the cheapest I could get anybody to was $638. That's right 82K miles, never been in an accident, and I'm adding to the laundry list of things on this truck that I've never fixed on another vehicle I've ever owned.
Rear Differential sensor
Rear axle seal
u joint and drive shaft
vent control valve
Fuel level sensor
#2034 of 2122 Re: Fuel Level Sensor [lhuang]
Jan 20, 2009 (3:31 pm)
My fuel gauge sending unit went bad too in my '06, but thankfully I am still in warranty. When you get it fixed, be certain that your dealer is aware of TSB NTB07-006. It reads that if the fuel pump, fuel tank, or fuel gauge sending unit requires service for any reason, install the fuel pump protector from the Parts Information of this bulletin before final reassembly. I don't know what the pump protector does, but perhaps it helps aleviate future failures.
Aside from this, my '06 SE has been good thus far, but I have only 18,500 Miles on it.
#2035 of 2122 Re: Fuel Level Sensor [asa]
Jan 27, 2009 (7:44 am)
i'm in the market for a compact/midsize PU. been a dedicated Toyota owner for about 15 years, various models, including a 2WD 4 banger taco. noticed sites like edmunds and CR have said nice things about the Fronty so i put it on my list of possibilities.
so, got my eye on an 06 SE, AWD, AT, 18k miles. a similar used taco would go for 4-5 more grand. i'm big on not having to repair a car every few weeks, it's the whole reason i went to imports anyway. to anyone's knowledge, is it just the NIMO's having issues, or are Fronty owners experiencing them across the board? aren't we just talking about suspension differences anyway, with the other mechanicals being the same?
i know there's a couple of head to head comparison threads already, but my question is more specific to the reliability of the Frontier itself....
#2036 of 2122 Re: Fuel Level Sensor [VonBreslau]
Jan 27, 2009 (8:35 am)
I'll be honest I have an '05 NISMO and while I love the look and style of the truck. I have at home 13 workorders for a truck that is 3 years old. This doesn't include brakes and other maintenance, it's been for parts that I've either never heard of or never had to replace on other trucks I've owned which included a Dakota with 100K, a Toyota Pickup with over 150K and a Tacoma with 90K. It is the most expensive vehicle to maintain that I have ever owned, brakes, air filters, and the high octane requirement. Granted I drive a lot, but mostly highway. Based on some of the posts I've read I don't think the issues are with just the NISMO's although that's where they seem to be prominant.
Just my 2cents.
Jan 27, 2009 (4:47 pm)
My Frontier is an '06 SE 4x2 CC 6-Speed and has only 18,000 Miles on the clock, but I've been well pleased thus far. Time will tell. It's sometimes hard to appraise most any vehicle on the Internet because far more people post queries about problems than kudos. The problems do matter and should be recognized, but I'd also research the Tacoma forums to see what owners are experiencing over there.
I'd also sit in both, as they have distinctly different sitting positions. Many automotive publications have noted this too. If you're not comfortable behind the wheel, you won't like the truck no matter how well it runs.
The '05s on both brands were their first year of the new design. I'd look only at '06+ models to hedge your bet. Good luck with your choice!
#2038 of 2122 Frontier '05 Looks like the fuel sensors and rear brake seals are real prob
Apr 23, 2009 (8:59 am)
Just putting in my 2 cents worth on this subject and my ownership experience with my Nissan '05 Frontier LE Crew Cab. This is without exception the most expensive vehicle, in terms of cost of ownership, that I have ever owned. I have just over 78K on it, and performance wise I couldn't ask for more from a midsize truck. But that is all the good things I can really say. Took it in to get the front brake pads replaced in December '08, tech discovered that I had a leak on the right rear axel seal, which had leaked oil on the parking brake shoe and saturated that and the rear brake pads. Thought I was going in for a quick and inexpensive front brake pad replacement and walked out with a bill over $1000.00. April '09, I take it in because my "Service Engine" light is on and the fuel gauge sometimes works and somtimes doesn't. After inspection error code PO-463 shows up indicating bad fuel sensor unit, and during inspection they also find that my left side rear axel seal is now leaking. So here I am again, going in for one thing only to have additional problems discovered, and walked out with a bill over $1300.00 this time. I also had asked them to check out a problem I am having with the interior fan selector switch, in which I set it to direct the air flow to the defrost, or defrost and floor, the system keeps switching the out flow alternating to all the different settings instead of just the out flow I set it for. Dealer wanted $130.00 just to diagnose the problem, so I cancelled that work order. Now after the $1300.00 + bill I just paid, plus the $1000.00 in Dec.( that is close to $2400.00 over the last six months), the wife and I decided it is time to get rid of this money pit and look for someting new, before more problems start to appear. One thing for certain - it isn't going to be a Nissan product.