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#21 of 1193 Except, this is about comparison, by vsroman Jan 23, 2004 (11:38 am)
not how to build a better suburu. Shoot, now we are comparing the Legacy. Why not add the tauras wagon?
#22 of 1193 XT vs FX vs X3 by clpurnell Jan 23, 2004 (12:36 pm)
First of all I own an FX so I am obviously biased and I have not driven an Xt but may do so this weekend just to comapre them. To me the FX is the clear cut winner and here is why.   The XT is faster but lets compare apples to apples and autos to autos. I have not seen any auto times for the Xt faster than 6.9 secs. The fastest FX times is 7.1 and the X3 3.0 is ~7.9 (stick was 7.4). Both the XT and FX will show the X3 auto it's taillights. They both also have way more torque than the BMW so more usable power. I mark this a tie between the XT and FX.   The handling is where the BMW and FX shines. Both equipped with sport packages are .88 g for the X3 and .87 for the FX. The base FX does .81 but since we don't have base skid numbers for the base X3 lets compare apples to apples again. The XT is High .7's here it brings up the rear where the FX and X3 tie.   Stopping. The FX beats em all here with the X3 and subie bringing up the rear. edge FX   Space. The subie and BMW about tie for cargo space but having been in all three (forester S) the fx I think ties the X3 for passenger comfort. But I will give the X3 and XT the slight edge here   Features. The FX blows em away with available DVD nav and ent, laser cruise, 6disc in dash changer, rear view camera standard xenons etc etc. Edge FX   Interior. I give the FX the nod with the subie second and the X3 bringing up the rear. It is about even with the subes for interior quality but costing 15k more that is not saying a whole lot. Edge FX   Exterior. I love the look of the FX. It is definately the head turner of the bunch the bmw is second and the subie can not be told from the avg subie grocery getter. Edge FX   Reliability. Probably a tie between FX and XT   Status. This is the only clear cut win for the X3. The infiniti brings in 2nd and the subie as some said may not even be cross shopped by the status conscience buyer   Price. The subie trounces em all on bang for the buck no doubt. The FX comes in nicely equipped about 6k less than the X3. The X3 is just plainly over priced.  Edge Subie.   From this comparison I would rank them FX, X3, XT. What costs the subie in my book is handling, looks and prestige. The X3 loses on price, power, reliability. The FX gives you the best of em all.
#23 of 1193 What price is prestige worth? by rsholland Jan 23, 2004 (12:50 pm)
Maybe it's just me, but buying a vehicle to impress people is at the bottom of my list of reasons to purchase a vehicle.   Bob
#24 of 1193 by ballistic Jan 23, 2004 (1:01 pm)
I'd go farther than Bob and say that if others are buying a particular car for its prestige or 'class' factor, that's all the reason I'd need to scratch that one off my list and buy something else.
#25 of 1193 FX by zman Jan 23, 2004 (1:20 pm)
Unfortunately, as fine a vehicle as it might be, the FX does not come in a manual transmission. IMHO, it therefore cannot even compete properly in a performance comparison.   That said, it sounds like the XT has it all over the X3 (on paper--I have not driven either).   Zman
#26 of 1193 Prestige and Reverse Prestige by designman Jan 23, 2004 (1:22 pm)
I have a BMW and Subaru. For some strange reason I'm suddenly having an identity crisis. Man this place got hot fast. Love it!
#27 of 1193 More like passion by zman Jan 23, 2004 (1:28 pm)
Designman,   These Subie boards are burning; it appears that Subaru owners (and potential owners) are nothing if not passionate.   Zman
#28 of 1193 Passionate for sure... by rsholland Jan 23, 2004 (2:01 pm)
but not necessarily prestige-oriented; unlike BMW, Infiniti, et al. As Subaru moves up-market their audience may change. I hope not.   That's not to say Subie owners are not image-oriented, but prestige is not the image most Subie owners aspire to.   Bob
#29 of 1193 The big problem for Suburu is... by vsroman Jan 23, 2004 (2:04 pm)
as aptly stated by clpurnell..."the subie can not be told from the avg subie grocery getter."   If I were Suburu, I'd figure out a way to get that hot rod engine into a more upscale, aggressive looking crossover vehicle...and fast!   Then it would be ripe for comparison.
#30 of 1193 It's coming... by rsholland Jan 23, 2004 (2:13 pm)
be patient...   The all-new turbo Legacy and Outbacks will be arriving this spring. After that, the all-new 7-passenger crossover will arrive. That model will debut Subaru's new styling direction, which will be adopted by all Subies eventually.   Subaru is moving upscale, and they know that better styling has to be part of the equation.   Bob

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