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BMW X3 vs Subaru Forester XT vs Infiniti FX 35 vs Toyota RAV4

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Re: Infinity FX35 vs. BMW X3 [elmo008] by ateixeira
Dec 21, 2007 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: elmo008 (Dec 20, 2007 7:43 pm)

When I sit in an FX I feel that visibility is not good. The rear most side windows are tiny so for me there is a blind spot. I was driving a Forester, which has excellent visibility from big windows, so the difference was rather pronounced.
 
Consider a backup camera or rear sonar parking assist, those should help.
 
The X3 is better in that regard, boxier shape plus bigger windows.
 
As for the rims, 20" rims seem to be in fashion nowadays, but what happens is the tire sidewalls get shorter, so there isn't a lot to absorb an impact. Bumps feel stiffer and noisier. On smooth roads this is OK, but on broken roads and speed bumps this may become annoying to you.
 
Just make sure you get a long enough test drive, turn off the radio, drive in the conditions you will encounter every day. Ask yourself if the ride is too stiff? Do the same for any test drive, come to think of it.
 
I'll make another suggestion - since it's auto show season, head to one of those, if there is one locally. You can check out both cars and some competitors in a non-pressure environment, without pushy salesmen.
 
I took my family to the DC auto show last year, and we "test fit" several vehicles, and narrowed our choices down quite a bit. Then we only had to test drive those few vehicles.
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Re: lol [clpurnell] by mchale33
Jan 03, 2008 (7:51 pm)
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Replying to: clpurnell (Jan 27, 2004 7:31 am)

The post below says it all, nothing on the road could compete with the performance, features and style of the FX; not to mention that it's Black with a graphite interior and the contrast with all that chromo, gives it a touch of elegance above all other colors. I just picked it up a couple of days ago and love it.
 
Yeah my ego is real bruised by the XT. I don't own an infinti because of the name shoot infiniti is the bottom of the luxo barrel. If I was really into prestige I would own a c230k just so I could say I had a benz.
  
In my mind nothing on the road has the performance, features and style of the FX. I guess that is why you don't see us on this thread trying to "justify" our purchase. Are there better alternatives sure but to me they costs tons more.
  
The same reason you bought your XT is the reason I bought my FX. I couldn't justify spending 4k more on the V8 or 8k more on the X5 or 15k more on the cayenne. Because the FX35 met all my needs at a price point I was comfortable with.
  
I can understand the appeal of the x3 3.0 (the 2.5 is ludicrous just lke a cayenne v6) I have driven one and it is a delight. I however find the interior tacky and it costs the same as my car while lacking many of the features.
  
Therefore I am very happy with my purchase. If speed and cargo carrying capability is your thing go for the XT no bones about it it is a good ride but it doesn't have the features or style I was looking for.
  
Style is a lot different than prestige. Target sells stylish stuff that has no prestige and there are plenty of prestigous stuff to me that has no style. I just hope you guys enjoy your XT's and X3's a quarter of the amount I enjoy my FX.
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Re: lol [mchale33] by p0926
Jan 04, 2008 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: mchale33 (Jan 03, 2008 7:51 pm)

Style, just like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Something that I consider stylish you quite possibly might view as being plain ugly and vice versa. Style is also historically fickle, what is "hot" right now more often than not is completely out-of-date before you know it. Sure some styles become classics but most do not age well.
 
And while style may be one of your top priorities, for others it may be performance, fuel efficiency, towing capacity, off-road ability, cargo capacity, etc.
 
-Frank
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Re: lol [mchale33] by kdshapiro
Jan 04, 2008 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: mchale33 (Jan 03, 2008 7:51 pm)

"Style is a lot different than prestige. Target sells stylish stuff that has no prestige and there are plenty of prestigous stuff to me that has no style. I just hope you guys enjoy your XT's and X3's a quarter of the amount I enjoy my FX. "
 
In two words, "I do".
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Re: lol [p0926] by ateixeira
Jan 04, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: p0926 (Jan 04, 2008 8:54 am)

What, so my mullet and Members Only jacket from the 80s are outdated now?
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Re: lol [kdshapiro] by flzz
Jan 14, 2008 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Jan 04, 2008 11:13 am)

BRAVO!
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Re: [edunnett] by mugwomp
Jan 28, 2008 (2:43 am)
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Replying to: edunnett (Aug 13, 2004 1:06 pm)

I cannot WAIT to take on a 2002 WRX (0-60 in 7.x sec) with my '04 F-XT (0-60 in 5.2 sec) at a green lite one of these days... Maybe the WRX owners should pump themselves up a bit acknowledging the lineage and similarities...
 
Good luck, edunnett.
 
0-60 in a 2002 WRX is 5.7 seconds.
 
2004 Forester XT 8 seconds.
 
Nevermind how differently a Forester and a WRX handle - regardless, you would not have a chance...
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Re: [mugwomp] by p0926
Jan 28, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: mugwomp (Jan 28, 2008 2:43 am)

2004 Forester XT 8 seconds.
 
Actually it depends on who's doing the testing (along with a host of environmental factors). Car & Driver (Aug 2003) clocked a 5-speed 2004 Forester XT doing 0-60 in 5.3 sec. For comparison purposes, that's a tenth of a second faster than the 2003 BMW Z4 3.0i (C&D Jan 2003)
 
-Frank
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Re: [mugwomp] by ateixeira
Jan 28, 2008 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: mugwomp (Jan 28, 2008 2:43 am)

Who got 8 seconds? Grandma?
 
Even Consumer Reports, the slow pokes of the industry, was quicker than that. I've never seen anything that wasn't in the 5-6-7 range, even for the automatic.
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Re: JB, just for fun... [rsholland] by aatherton
Jan 30, 2008 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: rsholland (Jan 24, 2004 7:06 pm)

"... now that the X-3 is now a part of this discussion, it gives you a legit excuse to do so. And... knowing you, your report back would be most entertaining."
 
Especially in view of the automatic transmission hesitation problem.

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