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by ateixeira
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Aug 17, 2004 (9:41 am)
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7.x for an automatic with no brake-torqueing, perhaps. Manuals are just a tick or two behind the F-XT. I think the benchmark time for a WRX is 5.4 seconds or so.
-juice
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- #1141 of 1193
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reopened
by steve_ HOST
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Dec 21, 2005 (8:08 am)
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Anyone specifically cross-shopping the Forester XT against the X3?
Steve, Host
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- #1142 of 1193
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Re: reopened [steve_]
by designman
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Dec 21, 2005 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 21, 2005 8:08 am)
Here we go again. The XT's thrust doesn't appeal to me without the handling. The price is right but you know the story... you pay the BMW premium to ride on rails, lock onto the road and maneuver like a cat. The XT is as loose as a goose.
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- #1143 of 1193
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Re: reopened [designman]
by kdshapiro
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Dec 21, 2005 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: designman (Dec 21, 2005 9:59 am)
I wouldn't quite say it is loose as goose. It rides on the okay side, neutral ride no torque steer.
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- #1144 of 1193
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Re: reopened [designman]
by ateixeira
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Dec 21, 2005 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: designman (Dec 21, 2005 9:59 am)
But you trade-off the stiffest ride this side of a Corvette Z06. I could feel the pavement joints in the parking lot of FedEx Field, and mine didn't even have the Sport package.
For the Forester you can always pick up STi components and bigger sway bars.
-juice
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- #1145 of 1193
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Re: reopened [ateixeira]
by kdshapiro
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Dec 21, 2005 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 21, 2005 10:14 am)
I don't think it had a stiff ride at all. To each their own though. Maybe I like stiff suspensions. 
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- #1146 of 1193
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Re: reopened [ateixeira]
by designman
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Dec 21, 2005 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 21, 2005 10:14 am)
I guess it would be worth it if you really want the power. But then there's the matter of the high (numerical) steering ratio which is a big culprit in the XT in my opinion. I don't think that can be changed.
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- #1147 of 1193
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Re: reopened [designman]
by ateixeira
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Dec 21, 2005 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: designman (Dec 21, 2005 10:30 am)
Nope, not easily.
-juice
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- #1148 of 1193
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Re: Subuaru Forester XT vs. BMW X3 [boomerbubba]
by kumari
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Jan 09, 2006 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: boomerbubba (Aug 13, 2004 11:57 am)
I am also a former BMW owner (320i) and drove that car for 14 years! Loved it! But, when I cross-shopped the Forester XT with the BMW X3, there was really no comparison. I thought the Subaru blew the BMW completely away. The BMW drove like a Cadillac - something for my mother to drive. Could not feel the road and it was like a deluxe SUV, not a sporty car at all! It was, however, very *pretty* compared with the lines of the Forester. I have never owned a Subaru, but will be buying a Forester XT Limited shortly. The test drive (and I drove it 3 separate times, including on the freeway by myself!) just took my breath away. I only wish they would make a better looking car - that sucker is damn ugly!! But, boy can it move! I'm only hoping that all the good things that the Subaru owners have written here is true! I really want a no-hassle car.
Samantha
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- #1149 of 1193
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Re: Subuaru Forester XT vs. BMW X3 [kumari]
by kdshapiro
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Jan 09, 2006 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: kumari (Jan 09, 2006 12:52 pm)
The Subaru is fast! No doubt. I test drove the X3 and it handled as well as my 330i. It does not drive anywhere close to your daddy's caddy. it also depends on whether you test drove the 3L or 2.5L model.
The Subaru does not handle like that, not even close. The luxury amenities on the Subie are also quite different than the X3.
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