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BMW X3 vs Subaru Forester XT vs Infiniti FX 35 vs Toyota RAV4

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Re: X3 Ultimate Driving Experience [ateixeira] by njswamplands
Aug 07, 2004 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 06, 2004 5:41 pm)

nice review guys. hard for me to comm that much info in my short posts.
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That is indeed a nice review............. by ezshift5
Aug 08, 2004 (9:02 am)
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....but IIRC, the dollar differenctial flitting in and out of the equation is a (for YT) real factor....sure it's a nice car, but.......ez
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by ateixeira
Aug 09, 2004 (6:09 am)
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They only had the 3.0l models for us to drive, even then most had several options so we're talking about $40k or so list prices on them.
 
Wonder what the 2.5l would feel like. It might not be too bad with a manual tranny.
 
-juice
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Yeah... by rsholland
Aug 09, 2004 (6:39 am)
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I think the X3 would be a lot more fun with the 6-speed manual.
 
Bob
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My .02 by boomerbubba
Aug 13, 2004 (10:27 am)
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I have had a new 2004 XT for a week. Just passed break-in.
 
This is beyond a doubt the most fun, best-engineered vehicle I have ever owned. And that includes the BMW 2002 I drove for 19 years.
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by ateixeira
Aug 13, 2004 (10:31 am)
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Well, to be fair, your XT has had the benefit of decades of engineering advances.
 
Let's not take anything away from a car that basically created the entire sports sedan segment.
 
In a lot of ways I have more respect for that 2002 than I do for the new Bimmers. It was light, simple, back-to-basics, and nothing was on it that didn't make it go faster.
 
-juice
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by ateixeira
Aug 13, 2004 (10:32 am)
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BTW, congrats, and please join us in the Subaru Crew threads under Owners Clubs right here on Edmunds.com.
 
-juice (founder and Crew Chief of the Subaru Crew)
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All hail the Chief!... ;-D by ozman62
Aug 13, 2004 (10:33 am)
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by ateixeira
Aug 13, 2004 (10:34 am)
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<crickets chirping>
 
Nice to know I have one whole fan.
 
-juice
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Re: [ateixeira] by boomerbubba
Aug 13, 2004 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 13, 2004 10:31 am)

Well, to be fair, your XT has had the benefit of decades of engineering advances.
 
That is absolutely right, of course. The basic engineering of the BMW 2002 was set in the mid-60s with the 1600 series.
 
But the holistic comparison for me is not completely specious. When I bought my bimmer, the folks in Bavaria were known for Spartan sports sedans. BMW drivers drove them aggressively. They waved and flashed their lights at each other. Like you said, this "created the entire sports sedan segment."
 
Then, about the time old hippies like me grew into yuppies and started making money, the whole BMW line shifted upscale toward the carriage trade. If you waved at another yuppie in a 3-Series, he just wondered who you were.
 
In a way I feel like I've gone back to my roots with the Subaru XT. I simply love to drive it!
 
p.s. I wish I still had the 2002, too. Nineteen years was not enough.

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