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Re: VW trim quality [thegraduate] by bug4
Nov 08, 2007 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 08, 2007 2:14 pm)

True! And, in fact, practical for fuel economy -- the car is supremely more peppy than my I4 Honda and he is getting about the same gas mileage (upper 20's). [The engine in that GTI is phenomenal! We packed it with 500+ pounds of passengers and it didn't leave 5th gear (or 6th gear???) going up a substantial hill at 70mph. Its an amazing little car.
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Re: VW trim quality [bug4] by thegraduate
Nov 08, 2007 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: bug4 (Nov 08, 2007 2:34 pm)

He's got a good 40 lbs more torque with that turbo engine, so it'll feel a lot quicker down low. He's also got less weight to lug around (although its still heavy for a compact).
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Re: VW trim quality [thegraduate] by robertsmx
Nov 08, 2007 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 08, 2007 2:45 pm)

On the flip side, the Accord is likely to return better mileage while also saving by way of regular grade gasoline.
 
And the engine will age well, while after noticing a drop in quality (response/acceleration) from 1.8T over a few years and miles, I will continue to doubt turbos from VW until they prove my assumptions wrong. I will give them five years for it.
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Re: VW trim quality [robertsmx] by bug4
Nov 08, 2007 (3:45 pm)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Nov 08, 2007 3:17 pm)

robertsmx --- 5 years to correct the problem - or 5 years before the turbo starts to deteriorate? Is this common among all turboed engines, or is this unique to the VW's?
 
--interestingly, I didn't notice much turbo-lag on the GTI.
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Re: VW trim quality [bug4] by robertsmx
Nov 08, 2007 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: bug4 (Nov 08, 2007 3:45 pm)

I didn't in 1997 Passat 1.8T either. In fact, I came away very impressed with that car and the engine and almost went for it (Accord EXL was next on list).
 
A decade later, and with extensive experience with two 1.8T engines from 5-6 years ago, with 10+ years and 183K miles I can now say I'm glad that I picked the Accord. The engine/transmissiuon in the Accord became smoother with age, or so it seems.
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Re: VW trim quality [robertsmx] by bug4
Nov 08, 2007 (4:26 pm)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Nov 08, 2007 4:05 pm)

I'm totally with you on the aging process on the Accord transmissions. I wouldn't have said it first because I'm not sure it doesn't make us sound crazy, but it seemed like everything but the suspension improved on my 98 Accord (manual transmission) over time. At 140k on the odometer, the thing was a cruising beast! The transmission just seemed to settle into a nice groove (maybe literally?) and its got great fuel economy and response after about 80k. This is going to sound ridiculous, but there is a huge stretch (210 miles) of straight, flat interstate highway that I used to travel every month. I used to crank the 98 Accord up to between 90 and 110 miles per hour and just let it go. Time and time again the car would give me 33-35 mpg at these speeds. That seems unrealistic to me -- but I confirmed it 5-6 times. I can only hope my 08 Accord will be as good as my 98 over the long-term.
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Re: VW trim quality [thegraduate] by venus537
Nov 10, 2007 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 08, 2007 2:45 pm)

He's got a good 40 lbs more torque with that turbo engine, so it'll feel a lot quicker down low.
 
Not only does it feel a lot quicker, it is a lot quicker. It's more on par with the Accord V6 until you get up to high speeds. It truly is a phenomenal little engine with a very efficient transmission. It pulls hard like a good V6 and if you drive it normally you get the fuel economy of a good I4. Granted, it lacks the silkiness of a good V6.
 
robertsmx does make a good point about long term reliability though. But I will say this, the 2.0t is so much better than the 1.8t. There's virtually no turbo lag with the 2.0t and it has a linear power cure. In other words you don't notice you're driving a turbo.
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Re: VW trim quality [robertsmx] by viet
Nov 25, 2007 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Nov 08, 2007 4:05 pm)

Right, the Accord's transmission's getting better & better. It's more compact now.
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VW buyers beware by hokie2
Nov 25, 2007 (5:44 pm)
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Here it is in a nutshell. Owned a 2002 Jetta and 2003 Passat. Engine coils replaced on both (twice on the Passat). Jetta drove like a dream, but had so many issues, got rid of it. Passat leaked after heavy rain, either through the pollen filter or the sunroof (no one knows) and took out the computer. Repair=$2500. FIVE Passats at the shop with the same problem (research this issue on the web...it's shocking). Just traded it for a beautiful 2008 Accord EX-L V6. Whatever you do...don't buy a VW!
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Re: VW buyers beware [hokie2] by bvdj84
Nov 25, 2007 (8:27 pm)
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Replying to: hokie2 (Nov 25, 2007 5:44 pm)

my mothers 04 jetta has never had any problems.Other than oil change, nothing else.

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