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#461 of 1965 Re: I think Toyota is the one to full of Hope [chevy598] by chevy598 Dec 18, 2006 (5:45 pm)
Replying to: chevy598 (Dec 18, 2006 4:45 pm) I just seen the crew cab Tundra and have to say it's better looking then the extended cab. Looks a little to big, but a better look.
#462 of 1965 Too much power! by iqbaldhillon2 Dec 20, 2006 (3:43 pm)
The truck is rated 381 horsepower and 405 pounds feet torque.My friend works for my local dealership and that waht he says are the final figures.Thats a bit too powerful for only a 5.7 Liter V8. It should get a responsive 325-340 horsepower and 360-390 pounds feet torque. Thats just too much. It will probally get 10 or 11 MPG city and maybe 16 MPG hwy. Are they tring to build an army tank or something. It looks good but it has way to much power(bad gas mileage).The new Silverado and Sierra can get 21 MPG hwy. The way the gas is going up Nobody will buy the new Tundra's. Pretty soon the gas will be $4 a gallon and Toyota will get very little sales. Then they will have to do something about it then. (decrease in power) Replies to this message: ggesq (Dec 20, 2006 5:05 pm) serranot (Dec 20, 2006 6:39 pm)
#463 of 1965 Re: Too much power! [iqbaldhillon2] by ggesq Dec 20, 2006 (5:05 pm)
Replying to: iqbaldhillon2 (Dec 20, 2006 3:43 pm) The 5.7 engine the most powerful engine that will be offered by Toyo. There are 2 smaller engines available- one of them being the 4.7 V8. I do agree with you that it will undoubtedly have low gas mileage but then again people who buy full size SUV's and trucks do not expect record breaking gas mileage. The "big" engine offerings by Dodge, Ford and GM do not have exceptional gas mileage either. People who need heavy duty trucks w/ powerful engines and a bunch of torque IMHO are not using their rigs for quick runs to the grocery store. Their probably using it for work, play (towing boats e.g.) or both. To say that "nobody will buy the new Tundra's" is a overstatement.
#464 of 1965 Re: Too much power! [iqbaldhillon2] by serranot Dec 20, 2006 (6:39 pm)
Replying to: iqbaldhillon2 (Dec 20, 2006 3:43 pm) The amount of peak horsepower it puts out does not necessarily correlate to no gas mileage. It is a function of weight, gearing, and the amount of right boot to name a few. A Corvette can get 25+ miles per gallon and it has over 400 hp.   Regards, Tom
#465 of 1965 Re: Too much power by rdsum Dec 20, 2006 (8:21 pm)
The 5.7 engine looks like a good one. Does it have a timing chain or does one have to replace the timing belt as a "regular" maintenance item? It is interesting how the costs build at the dealer when they suggest other things to replace at the same time as the belt.   Toyota will not be able to sell 200,000 Tundras if they only have one or two on their lot to sell. Toyota dealers in Canada do not stock trucks to any great extent. Just have a look at a Ford or Chev dealer and you can take your pick of color and options. It is going to be an interesting few years to see how Toyota is going to fare in the "real" truck market. Replies to this message: kdhspyder (Dec 20, 2006 9:48 pm) 1972ck (Dec 21, 2006 5:20 am) iqbaldhillon2 (Dec 21, 2006 6:49 pm) 1972ck (Dec 23, 2006 6:32 am) and 1 more... toysaleperson (Dec 28, 2006 8:24 am) toysaleperson (Dec 28, 2006 8:30 am) and 4 more...
#466 of 1965 Re: Too much power [rdsum] by kdhspyder Dec 20, 2006 (9:48 pm)
Replying to: rdsum (Dec 20, 2006 8:21 pm) In three weeks we'll know more about the 5.7L but Toyota is going toward timing chains on all their engines.
#467 of 1965 Timing Chain vs. Belt by 1972ck Dec 21, 2006 (5:20 am)
Replying to: rdsum (Dec 20, 2006 8:21 pm) I had an opportunity last week to see the new 5.7 liter V8 in a "cut away" view in person. Toyota is using 2 timing chains for the new 5.7 liter. Also, I have heard that the new 5.7 will be in the "300-20 club". Meaning it will be producing 300+ hp and have a hwy. EPA fuel economy rating of 20 mpg or higher. Toyota is gearing up to bump up production to reach the 200k unit mark. That's the reason for the new San Antonio plant. The Indiana plant can easily pump out 100k to 125k units a year. With the addition of TMMTX you'll be seeing alot more trucks on dealer's lots. Replies to this message: iqbaldhillon2 (Dec 21, 2006 6:49 pm) 1972ck (Dec 23, 2006 6:32 am) iqbaldhillon2 (Dec 23, 2006 1:22 pm) toysaleperson (Dec 28, 2006 8:24 am) toysaleperson (Dec 28, 2006 8:30 am) mrjones944 (Dec 28, 2006 9:09 am) and 3 more...
#468 of 1965 Chevy by drfill Dec 21, 2006 (6:38 am)
A few points to ponder:     1. The are many, 100k-200k full-size owners, who are driving domestics/Tacos that have the Next Tundra on their radar screens. Doesn't mean even half will buy, but it will be investigated. Many were waiting for Toyota to offer a Hemi/Triton/Vortex competitor!     2. Toyota has about 500k+ current Tundra owners looking at Tundra 2.0 as well.     3. Toyota car owners generally move to the domestics to get the size/power they want, but become disgruntled with the trade-offs. Toyota can market to these defectors.     4. The 4.7 has almost as much power as the Triton 5.4!     5. The interior is a disappointment, and the grille is confusing, but the sheetmetal itself is tight, like skin- over-muscle.        6. Fleet sales will become more focused this time around.       7. Ford, Dodge, and Nissan are losing share, and GM and 'Yota WILL pick up the pieces. The Titan is done if it can't sell before the Chevy and 'Tundra arrive!     DrFill Replies to this message: kdhspyder (Dec 21, 2006 9:07 am)
#469 of 1965 Re: Chevy [drfill] by kdhspyder Dec 21, 2006 (9:07 am)
Replying to: drfill (Dec 21, 2006 6:38 am) Concise and spot on for all of these points.   Ford acknowledged yesterday, NYTimes article that it was contracting and that Toyota should pass it in 2007 but it was also concerned about contracting too much where Chrysler also passed it. Ford is really really really cutting back; Taurus, minivans, Explorers, F150's, Wixom plant (?), domestic made Rangers in St Paul (?). It may be almost half the size it was 5 yrs ago.   GM is on a good streak; Kudo's to the Silverado for MT TOTY ( good job to chevy598 and your coworkers !), Acadia/Outlook, Aura/Malibu, hybrid initiatives and 2 mode system. Do something about the Cobalt!!
#470 of 1965 Edmunds forecasts for 2007 re: Tundra by ggesq Dec 21, 2006 (11:30 am)
Excerpt from the article:   "The Toyota Tundra, voted Edmunds.com’s Most Significant Vehicle of 2007, will take a chunk of large truck market share from the domestic automakers. This is a very profitable segment, so any loss in market share will have a disproportionately large impact financially. In terms of sales volume, Toyota will overtake Ford as the number two automaker in America by mid-2007."

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